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The manual says my 272 is 5250 lbs dry... would a 6600 lb lift be adequate?

That's 1350 lbs for fuel and "stuff".. seems like enough, but I'm not sure if the lifts are designed to run at close to their rated capacity. The marina sells Hydrohoist lifts. Comments on the brand?
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Yes it would. I’ve got a 6600lb lift. My r7 weighs 5600lbs and it picks it up just fine.

I’ve got a boat floater lift. I like it. But the only reason I went with BF is because I got a good deal on it. My marina only will install boat floater or Hydo hoist
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tgrace98 wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:54 am Yes it would. I’ve got a 6600lb lift. My r7 weighs 5600lbs and it picks it up just fine.

I’ve got a boat floater lift. I like it. But the only reason I went with BF is because I got a good deal on it. My marina only will install boat floater or Hydo hoist
You'll be at the max but should be fine. My numbers were close to yours but I went with an 8000 Airlift. Someday I may want to get a 282 with twins and at 8000 I'd be right there. And it's more expensive but I like the hydro better because it distributes the weight more evenly. Be sure the bunks are placed correctly at installation.

Something else to consider is backing in. It makes boarding soooo much easier! And I've discovered I'm a tad better at backing stern in anyway, so I back in even at the gas docks and restaurants.
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Ytmsn wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:38 am
tgrace98 wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:54 am Yes it would. I’ve got a 6600lb lift. My r7 weighs 5600lbs and it picks it up just fine.

I’ve got a boat floater lift. I like it. But the only reason I went with BF is because I got a good deal on it. My marina only will install boat floater or Hydo hoist
You'll be at the max but should be fine. My numbers were close to yours but I went with an 8000 Airlift. Someday I may want to get a 282 with twins and at 8000 I'd be right there. And it's more expensive but I like the hydro better because it distributes the weight more evenly. Be sure the bunks are placed correctly at installation.

Something else to consider is backing in. It makes boarding soooo much easier! And I've discovered I'm a tad better at backing stern in anyway, so I back in even at the gas docks and restaurants.
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Ya know, I was a bit intimidated about always coming stern in at first. But early last spring when I first launched I spent a morning at the dock practicing, and then started backing in everywhere. For some reason its easier for me.
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Yeah if I could go back and money was no object I would have gotten a 10,000lb lift and would have been done with it. I've got a 12x32ft slip so I can easily fit an R30 in there or something in that realm. But I would have spent double on the lift.
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Ytmsn wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:51 am Ya know, I was a bit intimidated about always coming stern in at first. But early last spring when I first launched I spent a morning at the dock practicing, and then started backing in everywhere. For some reason its easier for me.
And thanks!
That back-in setup looks great. It's gotta be the way to go for ease of loading/unloading.

Thanks, all. Not planning an upgrade to anything bigger, so I'll go with the 6600.
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okielaker wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:19 am
Ytmsn wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:51 am Ya know, I was a bit intimidated about always coming stern in at first. But early last spring when I first launched I spent a morning at the dock practicing, and then started backing in everywhere. For some reason its easier for me.
And thanks!
That back-in setup looks great. It's gotta be the way to go for ease of loading/unloading.

Thanks, all. Not planning an upgrade to anything bigger, so I'll go with the 6600.
yeah if you don't plan on ever going larger 6600 will work just fine. My 262 was 4800lbs dry and mine would pick it up full of fuel and 3-4 people in it no problem. I'll probably have to kick a person or 2 out on the R7 to not have to worry about lifting lol.
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I went with an 8,000 lb lift for my Marker One which weighs 5900 dry and a 7,000 lb lift for my R5 which weighs about 4,900lbs. I figured the Marker One weighs more like 6400 with fuel and gear and I often pull into the lift with 5 or 6 people on board which brings the total weight up to 7,500lbs or more. Last summer there were certainly several days where I pulled into the lift with a dozen people on board which would be over 2,000 pounds of passenger weight. I don't lift it more than a few inches with all the people on board but for longevity, my dealer recommended going with a lift capacity of at least 1,500 pounds over the dry weight of the boat.
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MnLakeBum wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:02 am I went with an 8,000 lb lift for my Marker One which weighs 5900 dry and a 7,000 lb lift for my R5 which weighs about 4,900lbs. I figured the Marker One weighs more like 6400 with fuel and gear and I often pull into the lift with 5 or 6 people on board which brings the total weight up to 7,500lbs or more. Last summer there were certainly several days where I pulled into the lift with a dozen people on board which would be over 2,000 pounds of passenger weight. I don't lift it more than a few inches with all the people on board but for longevity, my dealer recommended going with a lift capacity of at least 1,500 pounds over the dry weight of the boat.
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Ytmsn wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:51 am Ya know, I was a bit intimidated about always coming stern in at first. But early last spring when I first launched I spent a morning at the dock practicing, and then started backing in everywhere. For some reason its easier for me.
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MNlakebum nailed it. Go big. People and gear add up quickly. I had a lift dealer tell me I should really look at an 8k lift for my R3 due to gear/fuel/max people. The boat dry is 4450.

You know it's interesting, I'd never heard of a "floating" lift like hydrohoist until I read about them hear. Up hear, all of the lifts are based on solid bottoms that rest on the lake bottom. Are they stable when you are on the boat in the lifted position? Just curious. Just looking at them, they seem like they could be "tipsy". Maybe I don't fully understand how they work
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sailor55330 wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:43 am MNlakebum nailed it. Go big. People and gear add up quickly. I had a lift dealer tell me I should really look at an 8k lift for my R3 due to gear/fuel/max people. The boat dry is 4450.

You know it's interesting, I'd never heard of a "floating" lift like hydrohoist until I read about them hear. Up hear, all of the lifts are based on solid bottoms that rest on the lake bottom. Are they stable when you are on the boat in the lifted position? Just curious. Just looking at them, they seem like they could be "tipsy". Maybe I don't fully understand how they work
I don't have a hydrohoist lift but my boat floater is the same design. I boat a core of engineers lake so it can go up and down 20ft in a season. So the lift is secured to the dock. that way if they ever have to move the dock in our out the lift moves with it. The weight is very evenly distributed so even if I would put all the weight on one side. it will not tip. Mainly with the way the supports are designed.

I never lift my boat more than a couple inches out of the water with people on the boat. Mainly because I leave the boat on the lift all winter. So when it is all the way up and the boat and drive are completely out of the water. It takes an acrobat to get on and off it. So it works perfectly for me
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It makes more sense now....the lifts are secured to floating docks. Put me on the dummy stool in the corner. We don't see too many floating docks up here. The last time I had a floating dock was in Galveston with a 30ft Catalina. Obviously no lift.
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Sailor I'm just as clueless as curious as to how you guys do your docks as well.

Ever since joining this site I have been interested in seeing how different parts of the country operate in regards to docks, slips, lifts, dock roofs (or lack of) pilings and no pilings, yada yada.

Most of the lakes in our area are man -made for flood control and they work like big toilets, either brimming full and overflowing or way way down during droughts. Our floating docks have to have the ability to raise to maximum capacity and still be attached to "stand offs" so they dont float away during a flood. But sometimes with a current they break away anyway.

My personal dock will never hit the bottom during a drought but may get low enough we can't launch. (and wouldn't want to anyway) And most of our docks are covered with roofs.

We never take a dock out of the water once it's in because we dont have to deal with freezing. And the thought of driving out on a frozen lake creeps me out. Our lakes don't freeze, so the concept is completely foriegn.

Bum and several others have said their lake only varies a few inches every year. Again, a totally foriegn concept for us.

That's why I enjoy looking at pictures so much, and seeing how different the lake life is everywhere. From the cold northern waters to the bathtub temps way south, to the beauty of scorched earth like Powell or tall trees like Norris. But a lake bum is a lake bum... I like it all!
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