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tgrace98 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:09 pm How has Captain Steve from Boat test not reviewed one yet? It has been 3 days

Has that site ever tested a Cobalt?

BobRae99 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:00 pm

tgrace98 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:09 pm How has Captain Steve from Boat test not reviewed one yet? It has been 3 days

Has that site ever tested a Cobalt?

Yep most models. As a matter of fact he tested the r7 surf on my home lake

tgrace98 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:33 pm

BobRae99 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:00 pm

tgrace98 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:09 pm How has Captain Steve from Boat test not reviewed one yet? It has been 3 days

Has that site ever tested a Cobalt?

Yep most models. As a matter of fact he tested the r7 surf on my home lake

I want his job

Red Herring55 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:24 pm
2) Interior: a) the overall layout is virtually identical to the R5, other than some dimensional differences, such as i) the bow seating is noticeably shorter in the R6 (when seated I can stretch my legs out straight in the R5, and can't in the R6); ii) more space between the head door and passenger seat in the R6, so you don't have to have the bolster raised to open the door;

This is an interesting observation. In 2018 when I was looking at a 210 and comparing to a 200s, I noticed how much larger the cockpit area in the 220s seemed to be than the cockpit in the 210 and the boost are only 1' different LOA. But, when I went to the bow seating area I noticed the length of the bow seating on the 220s was shorter than on the 210 and the seat back was more upright. The salesman told me that was a major difference between the boat layout.

With the R6 maybe they are following the same design. Perhaps they feel more cockpit space is a more usable feature than a more generous bow section? Did you notice the seat back in the R6? Was it more upright or the same as on the R5?

https://www.globenewswire.com/news-rele ... about.html

No new information really but this is what they say about the hull in their press release - "and structural enhancements such as all-composite stringers and bulkheads, with a more efficient hull design for greater stability and smoothness on the water". Here's hoping they are right on smoothness and ride comfort.

BobRae99 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:00 pm

tgrace98 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:09 pm How has Captain Steve from Boat test not reviewed one yet? It has been 3 days

Has that site ever tested a Cobalt?

They have, but I think it's a sort of "pay to play" thing where you have to pay to get your boat tested. At least that's the impression I got when I reached out to them several years back after they stopped reviewing Coblat boats as actively as they had been. Either way, I think it's savvy of Cobalt to ensure that review sites like that are reviewing their boats.

And all-composite stringer and bulkheads is a nice move, especially considering they were almost there already. Being able to advertise "no wood" in structural points anyway makes for one less thing to worry about rotting away in your new $100k toy.

Table Rockin wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:13 am https://www.globenewswire.com/news-rele ... about.html

No new information really but this is what they say about the hull in their press release - "and structural enhancements such as all-composite stringers and bulkheads, with a more efficient hull design for greater stability and smoothness on the water". Here's hoping they are right on smoothness and ride comfort.

What I was told at the boat show is that the complete liner is a finished molded piece that doesn't need carpet over it to get the high end finish Cobalt is known for. It adds weight but also strength. I got the idea that the stringer system might be a pre molded assembly that is bonded into the bottom hull, but I can't confirm that. that type of system mightn't only improve strength and quietness, but also reduce manufacturing costs.

I know there are several people on this forum who are concerned with the top end speed of our boats (and I'll get flamed for repeating this), but I don't think the R series target audience is the performance top speed market. there are plenty of boats for that already on the market place. My R3 with a 350 goes just shy of 54 mph which I consider very quick for a boat of its size and weight. We typically cruise at 25 - 30 mph and I doubt we'd cruising faster if the boat went 60 mph instead of 54 mph.

The question I have is whether I can option an R6 with a 380 and get the same 54 mph the R5 gets with that engine or I have to go up to a 430? In the end, I think one has to drive the boat to see what the whole package offers. There are many details that make a successful boat and one of them (bow area space) was pointed out in apostle's above, an issue that hadn't occurred to me. So, I'm a bit negative on that change, but who knows, the additional usable space in the cockpit might more than make up for it.

Big Block Power wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:04 pm At least throw a rock at the windshield

Now that's funny right there. And Tesla's up something like 300% since that announcement? I suspect Cobalt will refine the next boat a bit but do just fine with the new line.

BobRae99 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:15 pm



With the R6 maybe they are following the same design. Perhaps they feel more cockpit space is a more usable feature than a more generous bow section? Did you notice the seat back in the R6? Was it more upright or the same as on the R5?

Seat back seems to be pretty much the same angle; armrests in the R6 are a little wider.

I came from a 220S to the R5 and hated how short the bow seating was (although I'm 6'4" and probably have longer legs than most), but did appreciate the roominess of the cockpit. That's what I found odd about the R6 --although by the model designation it's assumed to be larger than the R5, it has a smaller bow section and minimal noticeable difference in the cockpit. All explained when you look at the actual dimensions, however--the R6 LOA (including platform) is 25'9"; the R5 is 25'8". Pretty much a little marketing sleight-of-hand.

Red Herring55 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:11 am

BobRae99 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:15 pm



With the R6 maybe they are following the same design. Perhaps they feel more cockpit space is a more usable feature than a more generous bow section? Did you notice the seat back in the R6? Was it more upright or the same as on the R5?

Seat back seems to be pretty much the same angle; armrests in the R6 are a little wider.

I came from a 220S to the R5 and hated how short the bow seating was (although I'm 6'4" and probably have longer legs than most), but did appreciate the roominess of the cockpit. That's what I found odd about the R6 --although by the model designation it's assumed to be larger than the R5, it has a smaller bow section and minimal noticeable difference in the cockpit. All explained when you look at the actual dimensions, however--the R6 LOA (including platform) is 25'9"; the R5 is 25'8". Pretty much a little marketing sleight-of-hand.

It's funny you say that as I came from a 262 to an R7 and the 262 had a larger bow area compared to the R7. So on the 262 when in the boat everyone hung out in the bow area. On my R7 I notice everyone sits in either the cockpit or on the sun pad. I almost ordered the bow filler when I got the R7 because like the 262 I figured that is where everyone would hang out. Well no one does. So I will not be ordering one even anytime soon.

tgrace98 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:03 pm

Red Herring55 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:11 am

BobRae99 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:15 pm



With the R6 maybe they are following the same design. Perhaps they feel more cockpit space is a more usable feature than a more generous bow section? Did you notice the seat back in the R6? Was it more upright or the same as on the R5?

Seat back seems to be pretty much the same angle; armrests in the R6 are a little wider.

I came from a 220S to the R5 and hated how short the bow seating was (although I'm 6'4" and probably have longer legs than most), but did appreciate the roominess of the cockpit. That's what I found odd about the R6 --although by the model designation it's assumed to be larger than the R5, it has a smaller bow section and minimal noticeable difference in the cockpit. All explained when you look at the actual dimensions, however--the R6 LOA (including platform) is 25'9"; the R5 is 25'8". Pretty much a little marketing sleight-of-hand.

It's funny you say that as I came from a 262 to an R7 and the 262 had a larger bow area compared to the R7. So on the 262 when in the boat everyone hung out in the bow area. On my R7 I notice everyone sits in either the cockpit or on the sun pad. I almost ordered the bow filler when I got the R7 because like the 262 I figured that is where everyone would hang out. Well no one does. So I will not be ordering one even anytime soon.

On my boat, most people hang out in the cockpit under the tower sun shade, except when under way, when the kids like to sit up front. Personally I welcome more cockpit room but if the R6 has a shorter bow length and the cockpit doesn't seem to be any longer, I wonder what they did with the lost space in the bow, assuming the same LOA?

We are the opposite. The ladies hang out on the bow in full sun. (with insert). Probably because our summers aren’t as hot. Guys in the cockpit under the canopy. Any less area in the bow or center section would be a deal killer for me.

BobRae99 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:40 am
I know there are several people on this forum who are concerned with the top end speed of our boats (and I'll get flamed for repeating this), but I don't think the R series target audience is the performance top speed market. there are plenty of boats for that already on the market place. My R3 with a 350 goes just shy of 54 mph which I consider very quick for a boat of its size and weight. We typically cruise at 25 - 30 mph and I doubt we'd cruising faster if the boat went 60 mph instead of 54 mph.

I can’t believe no one has flamed you yet for your heretical position on top speed. The R5 surf with 380hp goes 49mph. This new one with the extra 1000lbs should be even slower. Even the non surf may be in the 50mph or less range. You might say top end doesn’t matter but when you come out of the channel into Lake Winnipegosis in your shinny new R6 with the fancy giant dual iPads thinking you’re looking good and some little old lady in a Searay starts passing you, you’ll have $180,000 worth of post purchase regret.

Ok I am kidding.... but only partially.

Traveller14 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:00 pm You might say top end doesn’t matter but when you come out of the channel into Lake Winnipegosis in your shinny new R6 with the fancy giant dual iPads thinking you’re looking good and some little old lady in a Searay starts passing you, you’ll have $180,000 worth of post purchase regret.

Post of the Week!

- Mark

mdadgar wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:33 pm

Traveller14 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:00 pm You might say top end doesn’t matter but when you come out of the channel into Lake Winnipegosis in your shinny new R6 with the fancy giant dual iPads thinking you’re looking good and some little old lady in a Searay starts passing you, you’ll have $180,000 worth of post purchase regret.

Post of the Week!

- Mark

Mark you are so right!!!!
Post of the year even!!!