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Re: Lift brands and cost?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:08 am
by cmattj
Big Block Power wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:22 am
cmattj wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:19 pm
Yeah I know his Barrett Jackson boat trailer

...I thought he was going marina slip with a hoist?
Yes the Barrett Jackson trailer. Go back to your lemonade.

Purely unsweetened iced tea. Iβm cleansing... for summer... itβs a process.

Re: Lift brands and cost?
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:53 am
by Ytmsn
I use an AirLift hoist. I got an 8,000 lb for $6,500 total, installed. And they had to come back a second day at no charge to make adjustments since I had it built with longer lift arms to back in. They miscalculated where it would sit when lifted, so they had to move it a tad. Basically they installed it backwards to what they usually do. They said they very seldom have a customer request to back in.
IMHO, stern in is the bomb!
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Re: Lift brands and cost?
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:26 am
by MnLakeBum
You guys with the floating lifts are getting off cheap. The 7,000 lb hydraulic Shore Station with the power screen sides is about $21k. The larger one for our Marker One was a bit more. The way I look at it, itβs an investment that brings decades of joy just like a Cobalt!
Re: Lift brands and cost?
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:32 am
by Southerncomfort
Well I really want to provide nothing useful to this conversation for some reason. Probably because the quote I got from hydrohoist pissed me off so much.
So I tried to get a 12k hydrohoist with no extras; hydrohoist of TN wanted ~$22k.

I nearly cried at that quote.

Nothing near what I was expecting.
To rub salt in the wound i was talking to someone from kentucky who got the same lift a year earlier for ~$14.5k..

. That is more in range with what I was expecting. Tried to buy his lift and truck it down to TN but he hadn't sold the boat yet. Of course I think I saw where he sold it for less than $10k later on an in the year. Really wish I could have waited and got it at that price.
Wound up with a used polylift for $10k. Definitely not as nice as the hydrohoist and had some issues with it being to big for the slip. Sidenote: I setup the lift so I can back in the boat( which is great for loading crap onto the boat) but apparently docks have a bar running 8 to 10 under the front entrance of the slip. Normally no one knows or cares about this except the polylift was so long and deep that it hits the bar and prevents it from going all the way down in the water. Only a few inches...well apparently those few inches really matter(that's what she said...

) as I backed the boat last summer at night... hit a prop on the lift. Cost me $700 for the prop as I would not wait the two weeks for the prop to be repaired.......wish I would have got the Hydrohoist...
Okay need to wrap up my soapbox... Really chaps my ass how Hydrohoist treats people when they have an exclusive agreement with the all marinas on the lake for new lifts. Aren't kickbacks a grand thing

Re: Lift brands and cost?
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:27 am
by tgrace98
Southerncomfort wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:32 am
Well I really want to provide nothing useful to this conversation for some reason. Probably because the quote I got from hydrohoist pissed me off so much.
So I tried to get a 12k hydrohoist with no extras; hydrohoist of TN wanted ~$22k.

I nearly cried at that quote.

Nothing near what I was expecting.
To rub salt in the wound i was talking to someone from kentucky who got the same lift a year earlier for ~$14.5k..

. That is more in range with what I was expecting. Tried to buy his lift and truck it down to TN but he hadn't sold the boat yet. Of course I think I saw where he sold it for less than $10k later on an in the year. Really wish I could have waited and got it at that price.
Wound up with a used polylift for $10k. Definitely not as nice as the hydrohoist and had some issues with it being to big for the slip. Sidenote: I setup the lift so I can back in the boat( which is great for loading crap onto the boat) but apparently docks have a bar running 8 to 10 under the front entrance of the slip. Normally no one knows or cares about this except the polylift was so long and deep that it hits the bar and prevents it from going all the way down in the water. Only a few inches...well apparently those few inches really matter(that's what she said...

) as I backed the boat last summer at night... hit a prop on the lift. Cost me $700 for the prop as I would not wait the two weeks for the prop to be repaired.......wish I would have got the Hydrohoist...
Okay need to wrap up my soapbox... Really chaps my ass how Hydrohoist treats people when they have an exclusive agreement with the all marinas on the lake for new lifts. Aren't kickbacks a grand thing
SoCo I know what you mean. When I first started looking at newer boats at first I was going to hunt down a 296 like yours. They ended up being more than I wanted to spend. But I also knew my 6600lb lift would not lift a 2 motor boat. So I started looking and when I got quotes for a 12,000lb hydro hoist and a 12,000lb boat floater. That was the ultimate deciding factor. I had just spent 6500 on my lift the year before. Then I was going to turn around and spend another 14 on a new lift. Now I know I could of sold my current one for around 4K-4500. But still another 10k.
And 75% of our boating is just me and my wife. The twin big block 296 was just because I wanted to be able to say I can do 60+ mph lol
Re: Lift brands and cost?
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:59 am
by Photo_G
We picked up a used fiberglass HydroHoist (I believe) a couple years ago, installed and adjusted (twice) for our Chaparral 190, for just under 3K. At the time, we were quoted 8K-10K for a new lift plus installation. Then we upgraded to the Cobalt 210 and it simply wasn't enough. So, our marina put us in touch with a gentleman who could adjust it, but it turned out that it needed to be rebuilt because the frame just wasn't sufficient for the new weight profile. He pulled it and rebuilt it with a 6000 lb frame to look like new using the existing (refurbished) tanks for right at another 3K. I don't know whether, all up, we paid more than we needed to for a used lift, but we've been really happy with it. He also adjusted it for us twice, so that the lower unit skeg is exactly an inch off of the water when fully trimmed in. It lifts the 210 quickly, is perfectly level, and the service we received after the sale was excellent!
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Re: Lift brands and cost?
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:32 am
by Photo_G
Ytmsn wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:53 am
I use an AirLift hoist. I got an 8,000 lb for $6,500 total, installed. And they had to come back a second day at no charge to make adjustments since I had it built with longer lift arms to back in. They miscalculated where it would sit when lifted, so they had to move it a tad. Basically they installed it backwards to what they usually do. They said they very seldom have a customer request to back in.
IMHO, stern in is the bomb!
Nice! I may have to ask our lift guy whether ours can be adjusted to allow for stern in. Man, that would make loading out and boarding so much easier. We have to steer fairly hard to starboard to get into our slip though...I wonder whether it would be challenging to do in reverse. I'll have to find a courtesy slip somewhere, when no one else is around, and try it.
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Re: Lift brands and cost?
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:38 am
by Ytmsn
Photo_G wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:32 am
Ytmsn wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:53 am
I use an AirLift hoist. I got an 8,000 lb for $6,500 total, installed. And they had to come back a second day at no charge to make adjustments since I had it built with longer lift arms to back in. They miscalculated where it would sit when lifted, so they had to move it a tad. Basically they installed it backwards to what they usually do. They said they very seldom have a customer request to back in.
IMHO, stern in is the bomb!
I may have to ask our lift guy whether ours can be adjusted to allow stern in. Man, that would make loading and boarding sooo easy!
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For us it makes ALL the difference. No climbing over the side, stretching out to reach the swimdeck, or awkwardly putting the mooring cover back on. Backing in is really as easy as pulling in bow first after you practice a couple times. It's all about spacing, placement and bumping in and out of forward and reverse...slow and easy.
Re: Lift brands and cost?
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:42 am
by Big Block Power
G our water is green too. We love it.
Re: Lift brands and cost?
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:02 am
by Photo_G
Hey BB! It's still pretty murky here this year, but should be clearing up to look like that again before too long.
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Re: Lift brands and cost?
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:06 am
by Big Block Power
It's odd how his the clean water looks like that. Table rock is kind of the same way. It's so cool.
Re: Lift brands and cost?
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:36 am
by Photo_G
Big Block Power wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:06 am
It's odd how his the clean water looks like that. Table rock is kind of the same way. It's so cool.
I've been told that it's because Lake Travis, being part of the Lower Colorado River, is always moving and circulating. I don't know if that's actually the case, but it's generally pretty clear in the summer and we have little to no problems with insects and spiders. It's been really refreshing, since we came from a lake that was nearly impossible to be on after dusk (bugs), and required 15-20 minutes of prep before every outing (spiders and bird droppings).
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Re: Lift brands and cost?
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:40 am
by Big Block Power
Photo_G wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:36 am
Big Block Power wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:06 am
It's odd how his the clean water looks like that. Table rock is kind of the same way. It's so cool.
I've been told that it's because Lake Travis, being part of the Lower Colorado River, is always moving and circulating. I don't know if that's actually the case, but it's generally pretty clear in the summer and we have little to no problems with insects and spiders. It's been really refreshing, since we came from a lake that was nearly impossible to be on after dusk (bugs), and required 15-20 minutes of prep before every outing (spiders and bird droppings).
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I didn't know Travis was part of the Colorado water system. Cool. I'm sure the rock in the lake has something to do with it too.
Re: Lift brands and cost?
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:09 am
by thunder550
Thanks for the great info everyone! I can stomach $6500 for a new lift. Much more than that and it gets out of my budget. Hopefully I can find a used one, I like the $2500-3000 price even better. It's gotta be close to AZ though, I'd imagine shipping from halfway across the country would quickly eat up a lot of the savings.
Yt....do you have the option to pull nose in if you want? I'd love to back in for the reasons you listed, but wondering if a big storm or something came up quick if nose in would work temporarily. I'm assuming if you don't actually lift the boat it doesn't matter if you go in forward or backwards?
Matt, I'll be sure to get pics. There's a long wait list but I'm hoping it goes quick like the lady said it would. A lot of the docks were damaged in a storm last year, so they have displaced people waiting for the covered slips to be repaired, then new people in line in front of me. But the lady I talked to seemed to think a lot of them will have gotten tired of waiting and moved on by the time they get to the front of the line. The dock repair is supposed to be done in May, then they will start working through the wait list.
Out of curiosity, what are you guys paying monthly or annually for covered slips? I think I remember a lot of them were cheap compared to here....supply and demand and all that. I'm looking at $460/month for a 30' covered slip, another $30/month for power and $35/month for trailer storage, so about $525/month all in.
Re: Lift brands and cost?
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:00 am
by tgrace98
thunder550 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:09 am
Thanks for the great info everyone! I can stomach $6500 for a new lift. Much more than that and it gets out of my budget. Hopefully I can find a used one, I like the $2500-3000 price even better. It's gotta be close to AZ though, I'd imagine shipping from halfway across the country would quickly eat up a lot of the savings.
Yt....do you have the option to pull nose in if you want? I'd love to back in for the reasons you listed, but wondering if a big storm or something came up quick if nose in would work temporarily. I'm assuming if you don't actually lift the boat it doesn't matter if you go in forward or backwards?
Matt, I'll be sure to get pics. There's a long wait list but I'm hoping it goes quick like the lady said it would. A lot of the docks were damaged in a storm last year, so they have displaced people waiting for the covered slips to be repaired, then new people in line in front of me. But the lady I talked to seemed to think a lot of them will have gotten tired of waiting and moved on by the time they get to the front of the line. The dock repair is supposed to be done in May, then they will start working through the wait list.
Out of curiosity, what are you guys paying monthly or annually for covered slips? I think I remember a lot of them were cheap compared to here....supply and demand and all that. I'm looking at $460/month for a 30' covered slip, another $30/month for power and $35/month for trailer storage, so about $525/month all in.
So I have to pay yearly as my boat stays on the lift all year long. But that being said I have a 32ftx12ft covered slip and I pay $2600 a year for the slip, electric, and wireless internet. That is on the higher end for Table Rock but I am right there at the Harbor so anytime I need my boat to get serviced I just make a call and they either service it right there on the dock or load it up on a trailer and take it to their shop up the hill. I don't have a trailer but if I did my my condo association charges me 150/year to keep a trailer on their storage lot.