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Tuscany wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 6:31 pm From what I have just read, VP unveiled the Gen 5 engines, including the new 6.2L at the Miami Boat show on February 20th.
That would make it impossible for a 16' to have it, and most of the 17' model year boats as well.
http://www.volvopenta.com/volvopenta/na ... uage=en-gb
If you do decide to take one of those boats, I would suggest opting for the 17'.
So many interior improvements over the 16'.

Personally, I would find a Gen 5..
I'm guessing the new 380 with outperform the old 430 by a noticeable margin.
The 6.0L is an engine that has been around in its current state for years. Built with cast iron heads, and meant for commercial longevedy. I own one, it's solid, but not a performance engine.
The new 6.2L will be based on performance. I also own one in a 420 hp GMC Denali, and it's a awesome engine. Better flowing heads and direct injection alone will be a huge gain. Bump up the compression by 2 points, (another full point over our Denali) and you will have a real nice performance package.
The only downside? The new 6.2L will require premium fuel..

Tuscany wrote: Tue May 09, 2017 5:36 am Unless something pops up that's irrestible, I typically won't buy from dealer stock. I like to order my vehicles, and they are generally very easy to negotiate with my local dealerships.

When it comes to Cobalt, here's what I've learned. If you order new, you will have to go through your closest Cobalt dealer. The company is very protective of their dealer's territory. In most cases, you still have to go through your local dealership to buy from national stock. If you don't and an outside dealer violates their business code, good luck getting service locally.
Since my guy is also a Chaparral dealer, I've had an ongoing service relationship with them for years.

As far as price, do your due diligence, and definitely don't outwardly fall in love.
Knowledge is power, and cash is king.

Big Block Power wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 9:14 pm Right I don't like how they cover the speakers in the same material in the 17 I like the plain old speaker grilles. I also like the look and feel of the 16 vinyl also.it's all personal choice.

Southernboatman wrote: Tue May 09, 2017 6:57 am

Tuscany wrote: Tue May 09, 2017 5:36 am Unless something pops up that's irrestible, I typically won't buy from dealer stock. I like to order my vehicles, and they are generally very easy to negotiate with my local dealerships.

When it comes to Cobalt, here's what I've learned. If you order new, you will have to go through your closest Cobalt dealer. The company is very protective of their dealer's territory. In most cases, you still have to go through your local dealership to buy from national stock. If you don't and an outside dealer violates their business code, good luck getting service locally.
Since my guy is also a Chaparral dealer, I've had an ongoing service relationship with them for years.

As far as price, do your due diligence, and definitely don't outwardly fall in love.
Knowledge is power, and cash is king.

Good stuff here! Newbie also who doesn't have his boat yet but last minute option change available and yes helpful quick feedback here. Let you know what Happens. For my input here tested the 380 (6.0 I think) at 52 moh on R5 and did not actually sea trial the 300 or the 430 in an R7. GPH is also on my mind for max fun with lowest $ pain!

Tuscany wrote: Tue May 09, 2017 7:04 am

Big Block Power wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 9:14 pm Right I don't like how they cover the speakers in the same material in the 17 I like the plain old speaker grilles. I also like the look and feel of the 16 vinyl also.it's all personal choice.

Funny how each of us rate different changes. IMHO, the two changes to the 17' you spoke of were what I saw as the most significant in making the interior look more like a Mercedes, and less like a Kia. Nothing screamed cheap Bayliner more than exposed plastic speaker grilles, and the upgrade to JL speakers was huge. The old vinyl failed the pinch test miserably as exposed by Sea Ray. I imagine that's why Cobalt changed their material. It's a lot thicker and much more resilient. The the new stitching, along with the stainless bar on the rear seat back knocks it out of the park.

The only thing I'm on the fence about is the glass dash. It sure looks beautiful, and the new features are nothing short of a massive upgrade over the analog. But I'm not sure how easily I'll be able to read it at speed. Hopefully, the dash can be configured to making the tach larger on the screen.