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dsthomas wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:33 pm So I’m curious... what are the features you like that the R6 has that the R5 doesn’t? I think price wise you’d get a much better deal on a new R5. Is just a matter of wanting the latest newest model? (Totally fine, we want what we want). If u do go R6 I agree 380 hp is a must. I have an r7 Surf with this the 380 and it does fine. But I think any less power than that I’d be disappointed. Post some pics of what ever you decide when it comes in!

Fair question and something I am debating. Going R5 would be a bit cheaper (10k-15k) and allow for me to add a couple of options. From what I am reading the R6, while @1k heavier seems to perform roughly the same top end wise. As far as ride quality and the such, well that's a bit of an unknown, at least to me but with the weight I am thinking it should be at least as solid if not better.

I like the cooler storage on the R6 as well as the wireless phone charger, but I also prefer the interior overall (probably in the minority there from what I can see).

Big Block Power wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:30 pm

netexan wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:24 pm

Big Block Power wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:20 pm

I think filler cushions are. They add so much more room. We never remove ours. The table is nice. Must have not really.

Table is on the list as a Wife must have.

Will take a look at the cushions. Hadn't considered those.

You have been a huge help, thanks!

Is easy I like spending others money
Are you thinking about under water lights and led rgb? The fancy wood I would personally pass on. Flag is a must have. As others say try to get the dealer to throw that in. You picked your tower right? I like black stitching on the seats VS white. Or color matched. Hides the dirt.
You may want trim tabs unless they are standard?

Trim tabs aren't standard and I removed the LEDs to make room for the 380.

Is the Soft Trac for the swim platform worth it? Will it actually last several years?

netexan wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:01 pm

Big Block Power wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:30 pm

netexan wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:24 pm

Table is on the list as a Wife must have.

Will take a look at the cushions. Hadn't considered those.

You have been a huge help, thanks!

Is easy I like spending others money
Are you thinking about under water lights and led rgb? The fancy wood I would personally pass on. Flag is a must have. As others say try to get the dealer to throw that in. You picked your tower right? I like black stitching on the seats VS white. Or color matched. Hides the dirt.
You may want trim tabs unless they are standard?

Trim tabs aren't standard and I removed the LEDs to make room for the 380.

Is the Soft Trac for the swim platform worth it? Will it actually last several years?

You will want the trim tabs. They help with weight balancing and improving ride quality in the chop. With the seat configuration you will have passengers wanting to load up the port side so dig the starboard tab and she will level out.

I have the soft trac mat on my swim platform. 2 years later it still looks good as new. You can get sea deck or gator step after market for cheaper

netexan wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:51 pm

dsthomas wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:33 pm So I’m curious... what are the features you like that the R6 has that the R5 doesn’t? I think price wise you’d get a much better deal on a new R5. Is just a matter of wanting the latest newest model? (Totally fine, we want what we want). If u do go R6 I agree 380 hp is a must. I have an r7 Surf with this the 380 and it does fine. But I think any less power than that I’d be disappointed. Post some pics of what ever you decide when it comes in!

Fair question and something I am debating. Going R5 would be a bit cheaper (10k-15k) and allow for me to add a couple of options. From what I am reading the R6, while @1k heavier seems to perform roughly the same top end wise. As far as ride quality and the such, well that's a bit of an unknown, at least to me but with the weight I am thinking it should be at least as solid if not better.

I like the cooler storage on the R6 as well as the wireless phone charger, but I also prefer the interior overall (probably in the minority there from what I can see).

The best decision you made was buying a Cobalt. Whether it’s an R5 w/ 350 or an R6 w/ 380, with the options you‘re wanting, you’re dropping $120k-$125k. In my own opinion .... There’s really not a “wrong” decision between those two .... don’t stress too much, but try to prioritize wants/needs as best you can and get what you and your wife want. Happy wife = Happy life.

In regard to options, the interior LEDs are really cool at night, and I have premium sound with transom speakers .... wish I had the Arch Speakers - will be an add for me soon.

Where will you be boating?

Regarding power, ask your dealer for the R6 prop charts which show time to plane and top speed. I have a 350 in my R3 and would get similar performance to it in an R5 with a 380. The R6 is heavier than the R5, but the hull is more efficient so Cobalt says its top speed with a 380 is similar to the R5. Based on that, I think the 380 would be a good choice.

As to freight/dealer prep, I’m not sure what is going on but I’ve purchased 2 new Cobalts in 3 years and both dealer prep costs were $3,500 CAD. We never discussed the amount after the dealer quoted it and I fought hard in spring of 2019 to get to a 22% discount. I think you just do the best you can and move along. Some people have posted their deals at 25% or higher but during this pandemic the Cobalt factory shut down for several weeks and people seemed to have invested their travel budgets into back yard pool, home improvements, cottages and toys, all of which have seen pressure on the supply side, so last years discounts may not be a good guide.

Good luck!

netexan wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:01 pm

Big Block Power wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:30 pm

netexan wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:24 pm

Table is on the list as a Wife must have.

Will take a look at the cushions. Hadn't considered those.

You have been a huge help, thanks!

Is easy I like spending others money
Are you thinking about under water lights and led rgb? The fancy wood I would personally pass on. Flag is a must have. As others say try to get the dealer to throw that in. You picked your tower right? I like black stitching on the seats VS white. Or color matched. Hides the dirt.
You may want trim tabs unless they are standard?

Trim tabs aren't standard and I removed the LEDs to make room for the 380.

Is the Soft Trac for the swim platform worth it? Will it actually last several years?

50% of my soft trac came off the swim platform at 5 years 1 day....right after warranty came was done. Try without the mat...you can add aftermarket really easily if you decide you want it later.

ajcampen wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:00 am

netexan wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:01 pm

Big Block Power wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:30 pm

Is easy I like spending others money
Are you thinking about under water lights and led rgb? The fancy wood I would personally pass on. Flag is a must have. As others say try to get the dealer to throw that in. You picked your tower right? I like black stitching on the seats VS white. Or color matched. Hides the dirt.
You may want trim tabs unless they are standard?

Trim tabs aren't standard and I removed the LEDs to make room for the 380.

Is the Soft Trac for the swim platform worth it? Will it actually last several years?

50% of my soft trac came off the swim platform at 5 years 1 day....right after warranty came was done. Try without the mat...you can add aftermarket really easily if you decide you want it later.

No matter what get something for that platform it gets really slippery when wet. Mine sits in the garage so it will last forever

netexan wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:51 pm

dsthomas wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:33 pm So I’m curious... what are the features you like that the R6 has that the R5 doesn’t? I think price wise you’d get a much better deal on a new R5. Is just a matter of wanting the latest newest model? (Totally fine, we want what we want). If u do go R6 I agree 380 hp is a must. I have an r7 Surf with this the 380 and it does fine. But I think any less power than that I’d be disappointed. Post some pics of what ever you decide when it comes in!

Fair question and something I am debating. Going R5 would be a bit cheaper (10k-15k) and allow for me to add a couple of options. From what I am reading the R6, while @1k heavier seems to perform roughly the same top end wise. As far as ride quality and the such, well that's a bit of an unknown, at least to me but with the weight I am thinking it should be at least as solid if not better.

I like the cooler storage on the R6 as well as the wireless phone charger, but I also prefer the interior overall (probably in the minority there from what I can see).

That drop in cooler feature is pretty cool. Little disappointed it's taken Cobalt so long to adopt that. Talking with my family we decided two add ons we have purchased but in hind sight could have done with our where the table and underwater lighting. We have used our table like one time and we haven't ever really used the under water lighting. We don't really do a lot of boating at night. We do really like the RGB lighting, priemium sound with arch speakers and trim tabs. (I've had these on previous cobalt, not available on the surf Also my wife loves the Sea Grass Carpeting!

My wife loves the soft mat instead of Sea Grass. So far, it still looks new.

Does anyone know whether there is a flip out lounge extension for the starboard side bow seat, like in the R5? It wasn't mentioned in the Cobalt features video.

Just got back from my R6 VP350 test drive. Drove great. 4 of us on the boat... figure just under 600 lbs. Quick out of pocket and to plane. Didn't see any indications of 18 degree deadrise issues. Only noticeable difference was the bow sat lower in the water when idle. Not sure why. Not a big deal, but noticeably different than my R3. Now I just need the R8 to be announced!!

J9lake wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:13 am Just got back from my R6 VP350 test drive. Drove great. 4 of us on the boat... figure just under 600 lbs. Quick out of pocket and to plane. Didn't see any indications of 18 degree deadrise issues. Only noticeable difference was the bow sat lower in the water when idle. Not sure why. Not a big deal, but noticeably different than my R3. Now I just need the R8 to be announced!!

Can you give us a bit more information? Was the water calm or choppy? How did it handle in the turns? It is larger and heavier than your R3 (as is the R5) but how do you compare handling and ride? Did the salesman offer up any performance statistics (top speed, time to plane) with the boat as equipped? How did you find the layout and materials quality compared to your R3?

Thanks, in advance

BobRae99 wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:44 am

J9lake wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:13 am Just got back from my R6 VP350 test drive. Drove great. 4 of us on the boat... figure just under 600 lbs. Quick out of pocket and to plane. Didn't see any indications of 18 degree deadrise issues. Only noticeable difference was the bow sat lower in the water when idle. Not sure why. Not a big deal, but noticeably different than my R3. Now I just need the R8 to be announced!!

Can you give us a bit more information? Was the water calm or choppy? How did it handle in the turns? It is larger and heavier than your R3 (as is the R5) but how do you compare handling and ride? Did the salesman offer up any performance statistics (top speed, time to plane) with the boat as equipped? How did you find the layout and materials quality compared to your R3?

Thanks, in advance

1 last thing did you buy. If not what would you change.

Big Block Power wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:33 pm

BobRae99 wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:44 am

J9lake wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:13 am Just got back from my R6 VP350 test drive. Drove great. 4 of us on the boat... figure just under 600 lbs. Quick out of pocket and to plane. Didn't see any indications of 18 degree deadrise issues. Only noticeable difference was the bow sat lower in the water when idle. Not sure why. Not a big deal, but noticeably different than my R3. Now I just need the R8 to be announced!!

Can you give us a bit more information? Was the water calm or choppy? How did it handle in the turns? It is larger and heavier than your R3 (as is the R5) but how do you compare handling and ride? Did the salesman offer up any performance statistics (top speed, time to plane) with the boat as equipped? How did you find the layout and materials quality compared to your R3?

Thanks, in advance

1 last thing did you buy. If not what would you change.

BobRae99 wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:44 am

J9lake wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:13 am Just got back from my R6 VP350 test drive. Drove great. 4 of us on the boat... figure just under 600 lbs. Quick out of pocket and to plane. Didn't see any indications of 18 degree deadrise issues. Only noticeable difference was the bow sat lower in the water when idle. Not sure why. Not a big deal, but noticeably different than my R3. Now I just need the R8 to be announced!!

Can you give us a bit more information? Was the water calm or choppy? How did it handle in the turns? It is larger and heavier than your R3 (as is the R5) but how do you compare handling and ride? Did the salesman offer up any performance statistics (top speed, time to plane) with the boat as equipped? How did you find the layout and materials quality compared to your R3?

Thanks, in advance

Drove in calm water and into the wind where there was some light chop. Boat handled and turned well... very smooth. The 5,800 lbs was definitely noticeable relative to my 4,400 R3. Salesman didn't offer any of those details (not the most knowledgable TBH). I typically cruise up to 35, so I ran it up around there and was at 4,300 RPM. I did not buy it. Size-wise, the R6 just doesn't offer a significant enough jump from the R3. So I'll probably wait for the R8 or just go with an R7. I actually don't mind the interior changes in the R6, but the R5/R7 stylings are definitely more refined. One more thing that I noticed... the helm was lower than the R3 even after tilting it all the way up. I'm short and had to extend my arms all the way down toward my knees when standing.

J9lake wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:03 pm

Big Block Power wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:33 pm

BobRae99 wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:44 am

Can you give us a bit more information? Was the water calm or choppy? How did it handle in the turns? It is larger and heavier than your R3 (as is the R5) but how do you compare handling and ride? Did the salesman offer up any performance statistics (top speed, time to plane) with the boat as equipped? How did you find the layout and materials quality compared to your R3?

Thanks, in advance

1 last thing did you buy. If not what would you change.

BobRae99 wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:44 am

J9lake wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:13 am Just got back from my R6 VP350 test drive. Drove great. 4 of us on the boat... figure just under 600 lbs. Quick out of pocket and to plane. Didn't see any indications of 18 degree deadrise issues. Only noticeable difference was the bow sat lower in the water when idle. Not sure why. Not a big deal, but noticeably different than my R3. Now I just need the R8 to be announced!!

Can you give us a bit more information? Was the water calm or choppy? How did it handle in the turns? It is larger and heavier than your R3 (as is the R5) but how do you compare handling and ride? Did the salesman offer up any performance statistics (top speed, time to plane) with the boat as equipped? How did you find the layout and materials quality compared to your R3?

Thanks, in advance

Drove in calm water and into the wind where there was some light chop. Boat handled and turned well... very smooth. The 5,800 lbs was definitely noticeable relative to my 4,400 R3. Salesman didn't offer any of those details (not the most knowledgable TBH). I typically cruise up to 35, so I ran it up around there and was at 4,300 RPM. I did not buy it. Size-wise, the R6 just doesn't offer a significant enough jump from the R3. So I'll probably wait for the R8 or just go with an R7. I actually don't mind the interior changes in the R6, but the R5/R7 stylings are definitely more refined. One more thing that I noticed... the helm was lower than the R3 even after tilting it all the way up. I'm short and had to extend my arms all the way down toward my knees when standing.

4300 with the vp380 in my r7 yields me 35mph as well. But that’s not enough to say that’s the right motor for the r6. The last one is the one I do not like. I stand 95% of the time when I drive. So if I’m having to reach that far down to get to the wheel Of an r6 that would be a deal breaker for me.