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dustinm wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 8:37 am

dsthomas wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:34 pm Just my two cents… when I ordered my truck I was really surprised to see that (back in 2019, who knows now) it was only a few hundred dollars, literally $200 to go from a 3/4 to a 1 ton or F250 to F350. It’s really nice to not have to worry about payload When we pack up for a week at the lake :0). 700-800 lbs of tongue weight and 200-300 lbs of gear plus basically four adults it adds up quick and before you know it your over grossed. Just saying if your gonna upgrade go all the way.

If anyone is interested here is a really good YouTube about payload and towing capacity.

https://www.keepyourdaydream.com/payload/

My uncle also buys F350s for the same reason. He told me the only real difference is the frame, which would explain the small difference in price.

I also have a story. When the half ton Dodge diesels came out I was very interested in purchasing one. When our local dealer finally got one in it was parked next to a medium optioned 3/4 ton Cummins. After looking that loaded up 1/2 over for quite sometime I thought maybe I would just see how it compared to the 3/4, the list prices were within 1k. At this point I was just dumb founded, why would I (or anyone) spend 1k more for a pickup that I literally could haul less than the cheaper pickup, it even had less overall power too. After some more research (finding the 1/2 ton oil changes at the time were $100) I never did buy either diesel, most of it due to that initial sticker shock.

Tuscany wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:58 pm The more tongue weight, the better.
When you start messing with trailer weight, you get that uneasy and dangerous squirmy feeling.

dsthomas wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:34 pm Just my two cents… when I ordered my truck I was really surprised to see that (back in 2019, who knows now) it was only a few hundred dollars, literally $200 to go from a 3/4 to a 1 ton or F250 to F350. It’s really nice to not have to worry about payload When we pack up for a week at the lake :0). 700-800 lbs of tongue weight and 200-300 lbs of gear plus basically four adults it adds up quick and before you know it your over grossed. Just saying if your gonna upgrade go all the way.

If anyone is interested here is a really good YouTube about payload and towing capacity.

https://www.keepyourdaydream.com/payload/

Snowman8 wrote: Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:26 am

dsthomas wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:34 pm Just my two cents… when I ordered my truck I was really surprised to see that (back in 2019, who knows now) it was only a few hundred dollars, literally $200 to go from a 3/4 to a 1 ton or F250 to F350. It’s really nice to not have to worry about payload When we pack up for a week at the lake :0). 700-800 lbs of tongue weight and 200-300 lbs of gear plus basically four adults it adds up quick and before you know it your over grossed. Just saying if your gonna upgrade go all the way.

If anyone is interested here is a really good YouTube about payload and towing capacity.

https://www.keepyourdaydream.com/payload/

You are correct. I don’t think that most people realize a 3/4 ton doesn’t have much more payload capacity than a half ton truck. Especially if the 3/4 ton has diesel engine. My wife’s F150 has a payload of just over 1600lbs, most 3/4 tons are around 2300-2500lbs, some can be slightly higher depending on options. My F350 single rear wheel has a payload of over 4600lbs. As dst said the cost isn’t much different from a 3/4 to a 1 ton but you get twice the truck is you have big trailers. I pull our 7000lb R5 with our F150 with ease and the 1 ton pulls my 15,000 lb skid loader trailer with ease with thousands of pounds of tools in the box of the truck. A 3/4 ton would be way over payload!

Snowman73 wrote: Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:42 am

Snowman8 wrote: Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:26 am

dsthomas wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:34 pm Just my two cents… when I ordered my truck I was really surprised to see that (back in 2019, who knows now) it was only a few hundred dollars, literally $200 to go from a 3/4 to a 1 ton or F250 to F350. It’s really nice to not have to worry about payload When we pack up for a week at the lake :0). 700-800 lbs of tongue weight and 200-300 lbs of gear plus basically four adults it adds up quick and before you know it your over grossed. Just saying if your gonna upgrade go all the way.

If anyone is interested here is a really good YouTube about payload and towing capacity.

https://www.keepyourdaydream.com/payload/

You are correct. I don’t think that most people realize a 3/4 ton doesn’t have much more payload capacity than a half ton truck. Especially if the 3/4 ton has diesel engine. My wife’s F150 has a payload of just over 1600lbs, most 3/4 tons are around 2300-2500lbs, some can be slightly higher depending on options. My F350 single rear wheel has a payload of over 4600lbs. As dst said the cost isn’t much different from a 3/4 to a 1 ton but you get twice the truck is you have big trailers. I pull our 7000lb R5 with our F150 with ease and the 1 ton pulls my 15,000 lb skid loader trailer with ease with thousands of pounds of tools in the box of the truck. A 3/4 ton would be way over payload!

Sounds like I should be just fine with the F150 w/ max tow hooked up to the R5 for my one time every other year trip to Table Rock.

Big Block Power wrote: Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:38 pm

Snowman73 wrote: Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:42 am

Snowman8 wrote: Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:26 am

You are correct. I don’t think that most people realize a 3/4 ton doesn’t have much more payload capacity than a half ton truck. Especially if the 3/4 ton has diesel engine. My wife’s F150 has a payload of just over 1600lbs, most 3/4 tons are around 2300-2500lbs, some can be slightly higher depending on options. My F350 single rear wheel has a payload of over 4600lbs. As dst said the cost isn’t much different from a 3/4 to a 1 ton but you get twice the truck is you have big trailers. I pull our 7000lb R5 with our F150 with ease and the 1 ton pulls my 15,000 lb skid loader trailer with ease with thousands of pounds of tools in the box of the truck. A 3/4 ton would be way over payload!

Sounds like I should be just fine with the F150 w/ max tow hooked up to the R5 for my one time every other year trip to Table Rock.

Yes and your 1 time should be in June

baktasht wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 1:39 pmIf someone made one of those tied to an Allison transmission that would be my favorite setup

Tuscany wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:58 pm The more tongue weight, the better.
When you start messing with trailer weight, you get that uneasy and dangerous squirmy feeling.

TwoDuckDad wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:27 pm
that is rediculous...and dead wrong. 10-15% of the gross trailer weight should be on the tongue. (Gross means the trailer and everything on/in it)

Snowman8 wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:37 am Well if EZ Loader recommends 5-10% that would explain why my R5 would wag like a dogs tail on my first trailer. Now with the new Loadmaster and extra tongue weight its steady as a rock at any speed with our F150. An R5 is well within the limits of any half ton truck if setup correctly.

Big Block Power wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:39 am

Snowman8 wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:37 am Well if EZ Loader recommends 5-10% that would explain why my R5 would wag like a dogs tail on my first trailer. Now with the new Loadmaster and extra tongue weight its steady as a rock at any speed with our F150. An R5 is well within the limits of any half ton truck if setup correctly.

Na it's Bu's fault for making the heavy pig

Snowman8 wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:04 pm

Big Block Power wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:39 am

Snowman8 wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:37 am Well if EZ Loader recommends 5-10% that would explain why my R5 would wag like a dogs tail on my first trailer. Now with the new Loadmaster and extra tongue weight its steady as a rock at any speed with our F150. An R5 is well within the limits of any half ton truck if setup correctly.

Na it's Bu's fault for making the heavy pig

Pretty sure my 2014 was before Bu but I guess they could still be blamed...