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akorcovelos wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:30 pm Outdrive, hydraulics, u-joints, huge cast iron manifolds, not to mention the parasitic loss. Still rather have an I/O unless I had to boat in salt.

Table Rockin wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:57 am So I’ve been thinking about the R6 owners claim of top end.....wouldn’t he still be in a break in period on the engine? Meaning he shouldn’t be at WOT?

tgrace98 wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:06 am

Table Rockin wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:57 am So I’ve been thinking about the R6 owners claim of top end.....wouldn’t he still be in a break in period on the engine? Meaning he shouldn’t be at WOT?

you can go WOT during break in. Only thing they suggested to me was to not travel at the same RPM for extended periods of time

BobRae99 wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:03 pm

tgrace98 wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:06 am

Table Rockin wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:57 am So I’ve been thinking about the R6 owners claim of top end.....wouldn’t he still be in a break in period on the engine? Meaning he shouldn’t be at WOT?

you can go WOT during break in. Only thing they suggested to me was to not travel at the same RPM for extended periods of time

I don't recall my break in manual saying its OK to go full throttle long enough to test out the boat's top speed and I certainly didn't break my boat in that way, but to each his own.

tgrace98 wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:02 pm

BobRae99 wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:03 pm

tgrace98 wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:06 am

you can go WOT during break in. Only thing they suggested to me was to not travel at the same RPM for extended periods of time

I don't recall my break in manual saying its OK to go full throttle long enough to test out the boat's top speed and I certainly didn't break my boat in that way, but to each his own.

Did I say I went WOT for 20hrs? I did not. I tested top speed once or twice but for the most party ran it at 4k for 5mins then down to 3500, then 3k, then up to 4500 etc

BobRae99 wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:03 pm

tgrace98 wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:06 am

Table Rockin wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:57 am So I’ve been thinking about the R6 owners claim of top end.....wouldn’t he still be in a break in period on the engine? Meaning he shouldn’t be at WOT?

you can go WOT during break in. Only thing they suggested to me was to not travel at the same RPM for extended periods of time

I don't recall my break in manual saying its OK to go full throttle long enough to test out the boat's top speed and I certainly didn't break my boat in that way, but to each his own.

NautiGirl wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:15 pm

BobRae99 wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:03 pm

tgrace98 wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:06 am

you can go WOT during break in. Only thing they suggested to me was to not travel at the same RPM for extended periods of time

I don't recall my break in manual saying its OK to go full throttle long enough to test out the boat's top speed and I certainly didn't break my boat in that way, but to each his own.

I had heard the same Tim. The only time I have had the opportunity to break in a brand new engine was the WRX I bought new when I was 26 years old. I pulled it off the lot /w 5 miles on the odo, I can assure you it saw some hard miles, 26 year old Jeff was not easy on cars. Sold it /w 145k on the odo, was still running fine, didn't use a drop of oil.

For sure break them in as you feel comfortable, and Matt and Chad will come tell me I am totally wrong, but these are not the engines of the 1960's. Varying the RPM helps seat the rings I guess, but whatever, I say Pudgy the Had Down Harder!

tgrace98 wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:02 pm

BobRae99 wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:03 pm

tgrace98 wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:06 am

you can go WOT during break in. Only thing they suggested to me was to not travel at the same RPM for extended periods of time

I don't recall my break in manual saying its OK to go full throttle long enough to test out the boat's top speed and I certainly didn't break my boat in that way, but to each his own.

Did I say I went WOT for 20hrs? I did not. I tested top speed once or twice but for the most party ran it at 4k for 5mins then down to 3500, then 3k, then up to 4500 etc

tgrace98 wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:02 pm

BobRae99 wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:03 pm

tgrace98 wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:06 am

you can go WOT during break in. Only thing they suggested to me was to not travel at the same RPM for extended periods of time

I don't recall my break in manual saying its OK to go full throttle long enough to test out the boat's top speed and I certainly didn't break my boat in that way, but to each his own.

Did I say I went WOT for 20hrs? I did not. I tested top speed once or twice but for the most party ran it at 4k for 5mins then down to 3500, then 3k, then up to 4500 etc

Big Block Power wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:19 pm

NautiGirl wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:15 pm

BobRae99 wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:03 pm

I don't recall my break in manual saying its OK to go full throttle long enough to test out the boat's top speed and I certainly didn't break my boat in that way, but to each his own.

I had heard the same Tim. The only time I have had the opportunity to break in a brand new engine was the WRX I bought new when I was 26 years old. I pulled it off the lot /w 5 miles on the odo, I can assure you it saw some hard miles, 26 year old Jeff was not easy on cars. Sold it /w 145k on the odo, was still running fine, didn't use a drop of oil.

For sure break them in as you feel comfortable, and Matt and Chad will come tell me I am totally wrong, but these are not the engines of the 1960's. Varying the RPM helps seat the rings I guess, but whatever, I say Pudgy the Had Down Harder!

Yep Jeef drive them like you stole it.
I won't say what I did when I was younger and road tested new vettes and Regal GS. And Camaro's!
But hey I'm old and your new Hell Cat is broken in before you even get it now though

NautiGirl wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:30 pm

Big Block Power wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:19 pm

NautiGirl wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:15 pm

I had heard the same Tim. The only time I have had the opportunity to break in a brand new engine was the WRX I bought new when I was 26 years old. I pulled it off the lot /w 5 miles on the odo, I can assure you it saw some hard miles, 26 year old Jeff was not easy on cars. Sold it /w 145k on the odo, was still running fine, didn't use a drop of oil.

For sure break them in as you feel comfortable, and Matt and Chad will come tell me I am totally wrong, but these are not the engines of the 1960's. Varying the RPM helps seat the rings I guess, but whatever, I say Pudgy the Had Down Harder!

Yep Jeef drive them like you stole it.
I won't say what I did when I was younger and road tested new vettes and Regal GS. And Camaro's!
But hey I'm old and your new Hell Cat is broken in before you even get it now though

Just to add to the discussion - we water tested an R5 Surf last year, local dealer was doing a demo day, we said why not. Between Katie and I can tell you that engine saw some time at WOT, and we were only 2 of God knows how many people to drive it that day. Perhaps an outlier, but anyone who drops Cobalt money on a boat is going to want a water test, and if I am water testing a boat I am going to put the sticks to the dash as Matt says.

I wouldnt run a new boat at WOT For hours at a time, course I also wouldn't do that /w our boat either and it has 200ish hours on it, but I can almost promise even a new boat engine saw redline before the final owner sat at the helm.

BobRae99 wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:37 pm

NautiGirl wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:30 pm

Big Block Power wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:19 pm

Yep Jeef drive them like you stole it.
I won't say what I did when I was younger and road tested new vettes and Regal GS. And Camaro's!
But hey I'm old and your new Hell Cat is broken in before you even get it now though

Just to add to the discussion - we water tested an R5 Surf last year, local dealer was doing a demo day, we said why not. Between Katie and I can tell you that engine saw some time at WOT, and we were only 2 of God knows how many people to drive it that day. Perhaps an outlier, but anyone who drops Cobalt money on a boat is going to want a water test, and if I am water testing a boat I am going to put the sticks to the dash as Matt says.

I wouldnt run a new boat at WOT For hours at a time, course I also wouldn't do that /w our boat either and it has 200ish hours on it, but I can almost promise even a new boat engine saw redline before the final owner sat at the helm.

Which is why I won't buy a demo unless I don't plan to hold it past the warranty. My 2016 Cobalt 210 had 3 demo hours on it when I got it. I saved about 50% off msrp as a leftover model so I was prepared to accept that it didn't get a proper break in during those first 3 hours. It developed a shake after 25 hours - related? probably not, but I traded it at the end of the season.

Forums are filled with people who are either conservative (like me) or in the "drive it like you stole it" club. I guess it doesn't really matter who is right or wrong. If the rings or some other engine parts don't seat in well, maybe the boat won't go as fast or maybe a bearing will go bad early, or maybe nothing will happen. I guess I just wonder why Volve Penta provides a particular break in procedure in a separate book (first hour, 2 - 8 hours, 10 hours, etc.) if it just doesn't matter? Anyway, that's the beauty of personal freedom. you pay your money and you get to do what you like with your boat.

BobRae99 wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:37 pm I saved about 50% off msrp as a leftover model so I was prepared to accept that it didn't get a proper break in during those first 3 hours. It developed a shake after 25 hours - related? probably not, but I traded it at the end of the season.