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Re: Cobalts BEST Hull
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:30 am
by Ytmsn
Kate wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:05 am
liquid wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:02 am
Tuscany wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:45 pm
Liquid once told me the 190 was the greatest hull ever built. Good enough for me!
Much loce.
Get a room.
Re: Cobalts BEST Hull
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:32 am
by Ytmsn
Big Block Power wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:03 am
Ytmsn wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:01 am
Big Block Power wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:11 pm
The 226 was right there with the fastest. But I guess the 343 and the 282 with a pair 525's might go pretty good. I think Rick was building a pretty scary boat at one time. Matt knows the details.
BB, the title of the thread is best hull, not fastest. Pay attention..
Just answering the question that was posted.
Sorry I just have said start your own thread
Oh snap! Ya got me! Of course, you're talking about Travelers question and I was talking about the original thread question, so that's a draw. I'll split it with you 60/40
Re: Cobalts BEST Hull
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:44 am
by Big Block Power
Ytmsn wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:32 am
Big Block Power wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:03 am
Ytmsn wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:01 am
BB, the title of the thread is best hull, not fastest. Pay attention..
Just answering the question that was posted.
Sorry I just have said start your own thread
Oh snap! Ya got me! Of course, you're talking about Travelers question and I was talking about the original thread question, so that's a draw. I'll split it with you 60/40
Dam redneck math. I lose again
Re: Cobalts BEST Hull
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:04 pm
by Tuscany
Re: Cobalts BEST Hull
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:45 am
by Dadof3girls
So I don’t care if I have the best hulk of not but it sounds like I have a good one in the R7. Just curious as to everyone’s thoughts on the A25. I always heard that was one of the better designs.
Re: Cobalts BEST Hull
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:53 am
by Table Rockin
A25/28 certainly wins as sexiest looking hull IMO but your mileage may vary.
Re: Cobalts BEST Hull
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:52 am
by Big Block Power
Table Rockin wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:53 am
A25/28 certainly wins as sexiest looking hull IMO but your mileage may vary.
X2
Re: Cobalts BEST Hull
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:18 am
by Motex2011
OK. I have a 2014 R5 and love the boat, but I just posted a comment on another thread about how it handles the chop at our lake. Boating in Texas has been a real learning experience. The wind is almost constant here, but especially in West Texas where our lake is. So, most days are windy and the chop ranges from 1 foot to 2 foot without boat traffic. The R5 can handle that pretty well, but throw in a few wakes and it turns into a washing machine. Last weekend was another example of that. We headed out Sunday morning and our friends were behind us in their 250. The 250 is a little bigger, 25' hull length to my 23.5' and weight was close to the same, but he eventually passed by me as I was navigating the chop and I was watching as he was planed out and the boat didn't appear to jumping around like my R5 does. As I saw him go by, I tried to plane out and see if I could move across the chop better, but I couldn't keep it up very long before I needed to back off of it. Can anyone on the forum provide some knowledge on why this "appears" to be the case. I have not ridden on his boat, so I can't say how it felt actually in the boat, but from the outside, he seemed to be handling the chop much better. Is this a hull issue or does that extra 1.5 feet really help that much?
Re: Cobalts BEST Hull
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:31 am
by liquid
Kate wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:05 am
liquid wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:02 am
Tuscany wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:45 pm
Liquid once told me the 190 was the greatest hull ever built. Good enough for me!
Much loce.
Get a room.
We have a garage at Tuscany’s.
Re: Cobalts BEST Hull
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:55 am
by cmattj
liquid wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:31 am
Kate wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:05 am
liquid wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:02 am
Much loce.
Get a room.
We have a garage at Tuscany’s.
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260s are mean through on coming qtr wakes as TRL washing machine proved.
Plus a genuine 60 mph hull with 496 power.
It’s big sister ( 282 ) shares similar dead rise. Oh and room for a spare engine
Re: Cobalts BEST Hull
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:47 pm
by akorcovelos
Motex2011 wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:18 am
OK. I have a 2014 R5 and love the boat, but I just posted a comment on another thread about how it handles the chop at our lake. Boating in Texas has been a real learning experience. The wind is almost constant here, but especially in West Texas where our lake is. So, most days are windy and the chop ranges from 1 foot to 2 foot without boat traffic. The R5 can handle that pretty well, but throw in a few wakes and it turns into a washing machine. Last weekend was another example of that. We headed out Sunday morning and our friends were behind us in their 250. The 250 is a little bigger, 25' hull length to my 23.5' and weight was close to the same, but he eventually passed by me as I was navigating the chop and I was watching as he was planed out and the boat didn't appear to jumping around like my R5 does. As I saw him go by, I tried to plane out and see if I could move across the chop better, but I couldn't keep it up very long before I needed to back off of it. Can anyone on the forum provide some knowledge on why this "appears" to be the case. I have not ridden on his boat, so I can't say how it felt actually in the boat, but from the outside, he seemed to be handling the chop much better. Is this a hull issue or does that extra 1.5 feet really help that much?
1.5’ is a lot on a boat. Is his beam wider as well?
Re: Cobalts BEST Hull
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:01 pm
by tsouthard91
This tells me I need to buy a 250...
Re: Cobalts BEST Hull
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:48 pm
by tgrace98
Motex2011 wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:18 am
OK. I have a 2014 R5 and love the boat, but I just posted a comment on another thread about how it handles the chop at our lake. Boating in Texas has been a real learning experience. The wind is almost constant here, but especially in West Texas where our lake is. So, most days are windy and the chop ranges from 1 foot to 2 foot without boat traffic. The R5 can handle that pretty well, but throw in a few wakes and it turns into a washing machine. Last weekend was another example of that. We headed out Sunday morning and our friends were behind us in their 250. The 250 is a little bigger, 25' hull length to my 23.5' and weight was close to the same, but he eventually passed by me as I was navigating the chop and I was watching as he was planed out and the boat didn't appear to jumping around like my R5 does. As I saw him go by, I tried to plane out and see if I could move across the chop better, but I couldn't keep it up very long before I needed to back off of it. Can anyone on the forum provide some knowledge on why this "appears" to be the case. I have not ridden on his boat, so I can't say how it felt actually in the boat, but from the outside, he seemed to be handling the chop much better. Is this a hull issue or does that extra 1.5 feet really help that much?
Do you have trim tabs? I know in my R7 when I start getting into choppy situations if I dig the tabs down by about 20-30% the ride quality improves tremendously.
My R7 is an absolute tank in the chop. On a busy weekend I can easily run into 2-3ft constant waves and I can plow through them going 30-35mph no problem. Anything larger than that lets say surf boat wake or cruiser wake I have to slow a little but never down to where I am not on plane.
Re: Cobalts BEST Hull
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:13 pm
by Big Block Power
tgrace98 wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:48 pm
Motex2011 wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:18 am
OK. I have a 2014 R5 and love the boat, but I just posted a comment on another thread about how it handles the chop at our lake. Boating in Texas has been a real learning experience. The wind is almost constant here, but especially in West Texas where our lake is. So, most days are windy and the chop ranges from 1 foot to 2 foot without boat traffic. The R5 can handle that pretty well, but throw in a few wakes and it turns into a washing machine. Last weekend was another example of that. We headed out Sunday morning and our friends were behind us in their 250. The 250 is a little bigger, 25' hull length to my 23.5' and weight was close to the same, but he eventually passed by me as I was navigating the chop and I was watching as he was planed out and the boat didn't appear to jumping around like my R5 does. As I saw him go by, I tried to plane out and see if I could move across the chop better, but I couldn't keep it up very long before I needed to back off of it. Can anyone on the forum provide some knowledge on why this "appears" to be the case. I have not ridden on his boat, so I can't say how it felt actually in the boat, but from the outside, he seemed to be handling the chop much better. Is this a hull issue or does that extra 1.5 feet really help that much?
Do you have trim tabs? I know in my R7 when I start getting into choppy situations if I dig the tabs down by about 20-30% the ride quality improves tremendously.
My R7 is an absolute tank in the chop. On a busy weekend I can easily run into 2-3ft constant waves and I can plow through them going 30-35mph no problem. Anything larger than that lets say surf boat wake or cruiser wake I have to slow a little but never down to where I am not on plane.
I was going to say add trim tabs. Plus where did you have your trim. Your r5 or totally diff hull then that 250. Props even Make a diff in rough water. Weight distribution does also. I don't knew if they are 2 diff deadrise which I'm sure they are. Last year you should have seen bfun run the washing machine on TRL. That 220 just cruised right through it.
Re: Cobalts BEST Hull
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:12 am
by Motex2011
The 250 and R5 are same beam. The only major difference appears to be length. Weight was definitely in the back due to the rough ride. Sounds like trim tabs will help. Any idea what that add on costs?
As for trimming the drive, it starts to porpoise pretty quickly. I had them on a prior boat and they definitely helped but I was hoping the bigger R5 would handle the chop without them.
