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Re: What Do I Gain (Lose) Going To An R3?
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:26 pm
by Ytmsn
Tgrace it was interesting to hear that they pulled specs on boats in 20 some odd past years of building and could not hardly find any boat built the same.
At least I think that's what he said. Anyone else catch that?
Re: What Do I Gain (Lose) Going To An R3?
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:37 pm
by Big Block Power
Ytmsn wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:26 pm
Tgrace it was interesting to hear that they pulled specs on boats in 20 some odd past years of building and could not hardly find any boat built the same.
At least I think that's what he said. Anyone else catch that?
Correct every boat is built with diff specs and options. Pretty crazy. What that means is us Cobalt owners like everything a bit diff then each other.
Some of us like spooning and some like twerking




Re: What Do I Gain (Lose) Going To An R3?
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:00 pm
by cmattj
Ytmsn wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:26 pm
Tgrace it was interesting to hear that they pulled specs on boats in 20 some odd past years of building and could not hardly find any boat built the same.
At least I think that's what he said. Anyone else catch that?
“Only 25 boats built exactly the same “ something along those lines..
Re: What Do I Gain (Lose) Going To An R3?
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:16 pm
by tgrace98
Ytmsn wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:26 pm
Tgrace it was interesting to hear that they pulled specs on boats in 20 some odd past years of building and could not hardly find any boat built the same.
At least I think that's what he said. Anyone else catch that?
This doesn’t surprise me. Of the 30 boats on my dock. Probably 18-20 of them are cobalts. And not a single one is the same color scheme, model, year, or options.
Re: What Do I Gain (Lose) Going To An R3?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:31 am
by BobRae99
Spring is getting close and I'm still considering an R3. I think a new boat may be out of the question this season due to the 10% import tariff which adds about $15,000 CAD ($11,000 USD) to the cost, plus the cost of the boat itself.
I did find a local R3 that I am considering. It is a 2014 R3 with Volvo V8/320 DP, docking lights, bimini, bow and cockpit covers, carpet, wood trim dash, trim tabs and possibly an upgraded sound system. It has 100 hours on it and has been kept in a boathouse, lifted from the water when not in use, so the hull and outdrive look new.
So, the boat must be past its powertrain warranty. Its offered at around $67,000 USD without a trailer. Any thoughts on keeping my 1 year in the water 210 (2016) with 30 hours vs the R3 described above?
Re: What Do I Gain (Lose) Going To An R3?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:28 am
by NautiGirl
Will the R3 fit on the EZPort? I can't imagine it will. How does that fit into your plans?
Only you can answer the money question. Is the R3 a nicer boat than the 210? Of course it is. But that nice comes /w a price tag. Seems like a nicely optioned boat. Think you can handle a 320hp V8?
Re: What Do I Gain (Lose) Going To An R3?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:50 am
by BobRae99
NautiGirl wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:28 am
Will the R3 fit on the EZPort? I can't imagine it will. How does that fit into your plans?
Only you can answer the money question. Is the R3 a nicer boat than the 210? Of course, it is. But that nice comes /w a price tag. Seems like a nicely optioned boat. Think you can handle a 320hp V8?
In the end, the marina decided the EZ Port for larger boats is not reliable enough for them to buy it and would have wanted a 6-year commitment from the boat owner in any event. So, sadly I'll continue to moor in the water and have the bottom acid washed and polished each year.
I'm thinking a 320 V8 DP would be more than enough for this boat and should drive it close to 50 mph (for those who care about that sort of thing). I'd be without a powertrain warranty though and the out of pocket to make the switch is about $25,000 CAD ($19,000 USD) - easily manageable for me. I also was hoping for a glass cockpit of the 2017+ boats. This boat doesn't have that but does have a GPS nav screen between the two round analogue instruments.
I believe it is dark blue with a gray boot stripe. It ticks most of the boxes. So, I guess I have to make a decision ...
Re: What Do I Gain (Lose) Going To An R3?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:56 am
by NautiGirl
BobRae99 wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:50 am
NautiGirl wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:28 am
Will the R3 fit on the EZPort? I can't imagine it will. How does that fit into your plans?
Only you can answer the money question. Is the R3 a nicer boat than the 210? Of course, it is. But that nice comes /w a price tag. Seems like a nicely optioned boat. Think you can handle a 320hp V8?
I'm thinking a 320 V8 DP would be more than enough for this boat and should drive it close to 50 mph (for those who care about that sort of thing).
Don't lie to me BobRay, you care about that sort of thing. We all do. Our 222 hits about 51 or 52 full out with just me and Katie on it. With the dual prop I agree that's enough motor. Plus you would be moving up to a V8. Congrats.
BobRae99 wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:50 am
I also was hoping for a glass cockpit of the 2017+ boats. This boat doesn't have that but does have a GPS nav screen between the two round analogue instruments.
The glass dash is sweet. It's on my next boat list for sure, bummer it doesn't have it.
BobRae99 wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:50 am
I believe it is dark blue with a gray boot stripe. It ticks most of the boxes. So, I guess I have to make a decision ...
You made the decision. Pen the check, get your 210 on the market and enjoy next season in your R3.
Re: What Do I Gain (Lose) Going To An R3?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:31 pm
by sailor55330
The R3 is a nice boat. From an engine standpoint, I have the 300 VP DP and it's been great for watersports, whether loaded or unloaded. You might be 1-2 mph short on the top end of what the larger engines can bring, but out of the hole and midrange, it works well. Besides, if you can tell 2mph on the top end without a gps you're better than me. Heck, on our lakes, I can't find enough open water without traffic to even get it past 30 ish
Re: What Do I Gain (Lose) Going To An R3?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:37 pm
by Big Block Power
Maybe you can make sailor a offer. He will be seeing snow in July. Just do it you have been talking for a year about it. You da man you can handle a bb go get it done. I'm sure you have lots of room behind you too very that baby in your slip. We can add bow thrusters. Minn-Kota is having a sale this month.
Re: What Do I Gain (Lose) Going To An R3?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:57 pm
by tgrace98
Simple answer. Dooooo iiiiitttt!
Re: What Do I Gain (Lose) Going To An R3?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:19 pm
by cmattj
Can’t resist. How about “point.... counter point”
Point.
It’s the model you’ve been wanting. It makes you feel good when you see it. You want to enjoy all the interior features. Regardless of power.
Counter Point ( brace yourself)
It’s an older model than what you currently have that also lacks what your original goal was. It would require an extended warranty, and not the factory coverages you desire. You will long for what a 2019 R3 has in improvements overall. Regardless of power.
My 3 cents as I’ve said this before.
Money is long forgotten after having what you wanted..... is remembered and in possession.
Wait until the counter point doesn’t come up

Re: What Do I Gain (Lose) Going To An R3?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:16 pm
by BobRae99
NautiGirl wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:56 am
BobRae99 wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:50 am
NautiGirl wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:28 am
Will the R3 fit on the EZPort? I can't imagine it will. How does that fit into your plans?
Only you can answer the money question. Is the R3 a nicer boat than the 210? Of course, it is. But that nice comes /w a price tag. Seems like a nicely optioned boat. Think you can handle a 320hp V8?
I'm thinking a 320 V8 DP would be more than enough for this boat and should drive it close to 50 mph (for those who care about that sort of thing).
Don't lie to me BobRay, you care about that sort of thing. We all do. Our 222 hits about 51 or 52 full out with just me and Katie on it. With the dual prop I agree that's enough motor. Plus you would be moving up to a V8. Congrats.
BobRae99 wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:50 am
I also was hoping for a glass cockpit of the 2017+ boats. This boat doesn't have that but does have a GPS nav screen between the two round analogue instruments.
The glass dash is sweet. It's on my next boat list for sure, bummer it doesn't have it.
BobRae99 wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:50 am
I believe it is dark blue with a gray boot stripe. It ticks most of the boxes. So, I guess I have to make a decision ...
You made the decision. Pen the check, get your 210 on the market and enjoy next season in your R3.
Actually, I won't have to put my boat on the market if I decide to go ahead with the purchase, my dealer has it in brokerage so it will be a trade plus the difference in the taxes. the boat show is on in a couple of weeks, so I'll have to make a decision before then - or I'm sure it will sell. It lives in a boathouse that is nicer than most peoples houses and doesn't appear to have a mark on it.
Re: What Do I Gain (Lose) Going To An R3?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:51 pm
by NautiGirl
BobRae99 wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:16 pm
NautiGirl wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:56 am
BobRae99 wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:50 am
I'm thinking a 320 V8 DP would be more than enough for this boat and should drive it close to 50 mph (for those who care about that sort of thing).
Don't lie to me BobRay, you care about that sort of thing. We all do. Our 222 hits about 51 or 52 full out with just me and Katie on it. With the dual prop I agree that's enough motor. Plus you would be moving up to a V8. Congrats.
BobRae99 wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:50 am
I also was hoping for a glass cockpit of the 2017+ boats. This boat doesn't have that but does have a GPS nav screen between the two round analogue instruments.
The glass dash is sweet. It's on my next boat list for sure, bummer it doesn't have it.
BobRae99 wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:50 am
I believe it is dark blue with a gray boot stripe. It ticks most of the boxes. So, I guess I have to make a decision ...
You made the decision. Pen the check, get your 210 on the market and enjoy next season in your R3.
Actually, I won't have to put my boat on the market if I decide to go ahead with the purchase, my dealer has it in brokerage so it will be a trade plus the difference in the taxes. the boat show is on in a couple of weeks, so I'll have to make a decision before then - or I'm sure it will sell. It lives in a boathouse that is nicer than most peoples houses and doesn't appear to have a mark on it.
Perfect old boat is practically sold. Don't listen to Matt, start the season off right /w a new R3.
Re: What Do I Gain (Lose) Going To An R3?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:55 pm
by Big Block Power
Buy it and like it. If you want new and still enjoy the r3 after this summer then buy a new one or if this one fits your needs after this season keep it. Or buy a R5 next year because this one got to small.