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jhnmdahl wrote: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:23 pm Speakers aren't really advancing at the same pace as a lot of other electronics - there are a lot of 20+ year old speakers that sound as good as most things made today, so I wouldn't fret that there's something new out. I've seen a few reports suggesting that the M6 and M3 have the same technology as the old M and MX series but are simply dressed up and re-branded to look more up-to-date (and maybe play some catch-up with LED lighting).

John

NautiGirl wrote: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:04 pm I'm a stereo dork, perhaps not to the level of John or MNLakeBum, but I like nice things. That said, a boat is like the crappiest acoustic environment ever. Cars are bad, but open air boats in the middle of the water just suck. I want my stuff to sound nice, but I don't think I am at a point of needing to digitally tune the amps in my boat. Perhaps I am just missing out I dunno? The IT dork in me would want to mess /w it, but I have a feeling the price tag will stop me.

I don't see them dropping the M amp line, they will just sell the MV line as a premium product. I haven't seen actual specs on the M series speaker replacement, I could be upset I missed out on that, but we got good deals on our stuff so I will hold onto it. Plus I don't think James at creative wants to see my name pop up in his email anytime soon.

MnLakeBum wrote: Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:24 am

NautiGirl wrote: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:04 pm I'm a stereo dork, perhaps not to the level of John or MNLakeBum, but I like nice things. That said, a boat is like the crappiest acoustic environment ever. Cars are bad, but open air boats in the middle of the water just suck. I want my stuff to sound nice, but I don't think I am at a point of needing to digitally tune the amps in my boat. Perhaps I am just missing out I dunno? The IT dork in me would want to mess /w it, but I have a feeling the price tag will stop me.

I don't see them dropping the M amp line, they will just sell the MV line as a premium product. I haven't seen actual specs on the M series speaker replacement, I could be upset I missed out on that, but we got good deals on our stuff so I will hold onto it. Plus I don't think James at creative wants to see my name pop up in his email anytime soon.

JL makes great stuff and its fun to see their new gear. That being said I totally agree, boats are crappy environments for listening and unless it’s an enclosed cabin in a cruiser, boat speakers are mounted in way less than ideal locations. Not one of the speakers in my R5 is in a good location(it’s simply not practical or possible to put speakers in and ideal location in a boat). If you want to EQ the sound and are listening through a smart phone, there are already some built in EQ functions on the phone and dozens of EQ apps that can be had for free or $.99. The problem with equalizing the sound is what’s good for one sitting location in a boat is likely not good for another. Again, boat simply suck a listening space.

NautiGirl wrote: Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:38 am

MnLakeBum wrote: Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:24 am

NautiGirl wrote: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:04 pm I'm a stereo dork, perhaps not to the level of John or MNLakeBum, but I like nice things. That said, a boat is like the crappiest acoustic environment ever. Cars are bad, but open air boats in the middle of the water just suck. I want my stuff to sound nice, but I don't think I am at a point of needing to digitally tune the amps in my boat. Perhaps I am just missing out I dunno? The IT dork in me would want to mess /w it, but I have a feeling the price tag will stop me.

I don't see them dropping the M amp line, they will just sell the MV line as a premium product. I haven't seen actual specs on the M series speaker replacement, I could be upset I missed out on that, but we got good deals on our stuff so I will hold onto it. Plus I don't think James at creative wants to see my name pop up in his email anytime soon.

JL makes great stuff and its fun to see their new gear. That being said I totally agree, boats are crappy environments for listening and unless it’s an enclosed cabin in a cruiser, boat speakers are mounted in way less than ideal locations. Not one of the speakers in my R5 is in a good location(it’s simply not practical or possible to put speakers in and ideal location in a boat). If you want to EQ the sound and are listening through a smart phone, there are already some built in EQ functions on the phone and dozens of EQ apps that can be had for free or $.99. The problem with equalizing the sound is what’s good for one sitting location in a boat is likely not good for another. Again, boat simply suck a listening space.

The other really ironic thing is the majority of people listening to music on their expensive boat stereo system are streaming from something like Spotify or XM which are both super compressed audio formats. "Normal" spotify streaming on mobile devices is 96kbps, which is a crazy low bitrate. Their high quality option is 320kbps which is better but you are still losing sound quality. To make matters worse we are all connecting the audio source the stereo via bluetooth which further reduces the audio quality of the already compressed mp3's.

We are using spotify, I am working on talking Mrs. Nauti into finding room in the family budget to move to Tidal, it's more expensive but they stream full quality CD Quality in FLAC. We have an unlimited data plan on our cell phones - lets use it!

akorcovelos wrote: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:56 am This is why we typically download all our music locally onto my Wife's iPhone, then hard wire the phone and use our Fitbits to control the music via Bluetooth. I occasionally stream via iHeartRadio but you can definitely tell the music is compressed. In all honesty, I'm probably the only one on the boat that notices as guests are more concerned with adult beverages and socializing.

Ytmsn wrote: Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:52 am Did someone say audiophile? Check this system out. It belongs to a buddy of mine that is the biggest audiophile nerd I've ever seen. Vintage hi-fi is his hobby.

Those bad boys on each end are Carvers. I was listening to a jazz track and could literally hear the keys clacking on the saxophone. UNfreakinbelievable!
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AsLan7 wrote: Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:49 am

Ytmsn wrote: Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:52 am Did someone say audiophile? Check this system out. It belongs to a buddy of mine that is the biggest audiophile nerd I've ever seen. Vintage hi-fi is his hobby.

Those bad boys on each end are Carvers. I was listening to a jazz track and could literally hear the keys clacking on the saxophone. UNfreakinbelievable!
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Ooohhh, now you’re speakin’ my language YT. Great system your buddy has there. (I use those Carver ribbon speakers in my system too....power hungry but amazing if you’ve got the horsepower to push them. I guess that’s why Bob Carver titled them Carver Amazing loudspeakers )

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