R8 Announced
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:16 pm
Assuming everyone got the announcement of the R8 reveal on 9/14. Anyone know if there will be any features unique to the R8? Let the speculation begin!
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Re: R8 Announced
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:48 pm
Missed it, link?
Re: R8 Announced
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:11 pm
If they offer twins I might have to think about a bad financial decision.
Re: R8 Announced
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:54 pm
They will certainly release twin outboards right?
Re: R8 Announced
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:41 am
I've heard rumors of twin egg beaters but haven't gotten confirmation yet.
Re: R8 Announced
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:32 pm
You only live once.tgrace98 wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:11 pm If they offer twins I might have to think about a bad financial decision.
Re: R8 Announced
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:49 pm
Re: R8 Announced
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:43 pm
Not since the 80’sBobRae99 wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:49 pmHas Cobalt done twin engines in an 8’ 5” beam boat in the past?
Re: R8 Announced
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:09 am
I think it’s unlikely Cobalt would put a twin engine setup in the new R series (4, 6, 8), a 8’ 6” beam boat for a several reasons I can think of;
1. The boat just doesn’t have enough beam for such an installation;
2. The current R series boats achieve very good performance with a single installation with the R3 hitting 60 mph with a VP 430 and the R7 reaching the high 50s with the same engine and the new R series boats are reported by Cobalt to have similar performance;
3. Cobalt would have needed to change the balance of this hull to move weight forward as even the current R3 as it is already has a bit too much weight towards the stern and the new hull, I’m told has been “tweaked” rather than completely changed, and;
4. Despite all the discussion by one or two members of this forum encouraging prospective owners to go big or go home, I don’t think Cobalt views its target market as the speed racer type. True it offers a CC exhaust for those who like to announce they’ve arrived, but the hulls are built for quiet, comfort and rough water handling unlike, say, a Regal which has a very “fast” hull emphasizing high speed and quick handling at the expense of rough water ride.
Anyway, we’ll know soon enough.
Re: R8 Announced
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:38 am
While this may be true see Tgrace summed it upped perfectly with his post in another thread......at the price points they are asking power should just be there. Similar to luxury cars that are all about comfort and features but also can rocket down the highway. Just cause. They are asking a TON of money for these boats and IMO should all have the 430 included as the standard packageBobRae99 wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:09 am
4. Despite all the discussion by one or two members of this forum encouraging prospective owners to go big or go home, I don’t think Cobalt views its target market as the speed racer type. True it offers a CC exhaust for those who like to announce they’ve arrived, but the hulls are built for quiet, comfort and rough water handling unlike, say, a Regal which has a very “fast” hull emphasizing high speed and quick handling at the expense of rough water ride.
Re: R8 Announced
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:18 am
I really doubt we will see twin I/O's in the R8. Well I should say I know we won't see twin i/0's in the R8. They would have to sacrifice the walk thru transom on an 8.5ft beam in order to do that which they will not do. But Twin outboards is a possibility to fill the need for those that want to go fast.BobRae99 wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:09 amI think it’s unlikely Cobalt would put a twin engine setup in the new R series (4, 6, 8), a 8’ 6” beam boat for a several reasons I can think of;
1. The boat just doesn’t have enough beam for such an installation;
2. The current R series boats achieve very good performance with a single installation with the R3 hitting 60 mph with a VP 430 and the R7 reaching the high 50s with the same engine and the new R series boats are reported by Cobalt to have similar performance;
3. Cobalt would have needed to change the balance of this hull to move weight forward as even the current R3 as it is already has a bit too much weight towards the stern and the new hull, I’m told has been “tweaked” rather than completely changed, and;
4. Despite all the discussion by one or two members of this forum encouraging prospective owners to go big or go home, I don’t think Cobalt views its target market as the speed racer type. True it offers a CC exhaust for those who like to announce they’ve arrived, but the hulls are built for quiet, comfort and rough water handling unlike, say, a Regal which has a very “fast” hull emphasizing high speed and quick handling at the expense of rough water ride.
Anyway, we’ll know soon enough.
Re: R8 Announced
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:53 am
Thats like saying every Porsche Cayenne should be a turbo model for $180,000 and they shouldn't offer the Cayenne in a base model for $85,000. I'm pretty sure, for all the talk, the take rate for the 430 on all but the R7 is pretty low. I've never seen one in a boat on a dealer's lot and I've looked through all of the largest dealers online inventories. That has to tell you something. Cobalt has been at this for 50+ years, I think they know the market by now. They can't be everything to everyone and they play in the luxury bow rider market with the R series. I'm totally satisfied with the product and its performance. I think most are.Table Rockin wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:38 amWhile this may be true see Tgrace summed it upped perfectly with his post in another thread......at the price points they are asking power should just be there. Similar to luxury cars that are all about comfort and features but also can rocket down the highway. Just cause. They are asking a TON of money for these boats and IMO should all have the 430 included as the standard packageBobRae99 wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:09 am
4. Despite all the discussion by one or two members of this forum encouraging prospective owners to go big or go home, I don’t think Cobalt views its target market as the speed racer type. True it offers a CC exhaust for those who like to announce they’ve arrived, but the hulls are built for quiet, comfort and rough water handling unlike, say, a Regal which has a very “fast” hull emphasizing high speed and quick handling at the expense of rough water ride.
Re: R8 Announced
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:22 am
Yes....yes that's exactly what I'm saying. Its why I don't buy Porsches'BobRae99 wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:53 am Thats like saying every Porsche Cayenne should be a turbo model for $180,000 and they shouldn't offer the Cayenne in a base model for $85,000.
Re: R8 Announced
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:37 am
Even Lamborghini sells a "cheap" Lambo at $218,000 and expensive ones to $400,000 that go faster. Like my boat's power (R3 VP350), I'm choosing a Cayenne S with 434HP. Not as fast as a Turbo, but quite a bit quicker than the base with 335HP which I found too slow.Table Rockin wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:22 amYes....yes that's exactly what I'm saying. Its why I don't buy Porsches'BobRae99 wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:53 am Thats like saying every Porsche Cayenne should be a turbo model for $180,000 and they shouldn't offer the Cayenne in a base model for $85,000.
Anyway, I've come to the conclusion that if top end is what one is after, there are better boats than Cobalt.