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Finally defeating the big C?

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Cautiously optimistic about the recent news out of Jerusalem......Scientist’s are showing repeatable cancer killing results in mice using a cancer targeting cocktail called MuTaTo (multi-target toxin) that they have developed using peptides. (See article below.)

That being said, there’s still a LONG road ahead as the cure (if it holds up) jumps from mice to men. But it may finally be a breakthrough. Who knows :?: . I definitely think we will look back someday on how we currently fight cancer— carving it out...bombarding it with radiation and chemotherapy and think—my god...how barbaric. :o

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IF it holds true it will be the breakthrough of the millennia. The survival rates of many forms of cancer have risen so dramatically in the last 10 years it's unbelievable. we've been really close to a breakthrough for a while now. Let's hope this is what it claims. Life without cancer, seems unbelievable. But I'm sure people suffering from AIDS felt the same way. Hope this pans out!
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They'll charge eleventy million dollars are shot, but it will be worth it.
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Let me start by saying most doctors are good people, mean well and care for their patients. But, they are not trained to cure cancer, only to treat cancer. There's a lot of money in selling cancer drugs. I have seen people require $11k+ treatments needed weekly for more than a year. I hope we can rid the world of cancer some day. But the big money is in treatment, not curing.
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Sorry for the rant. Its soapbox time...

I have lost many friends and family members to cancer. Every single one of them went through the horror of chemo and radiation and as a result the time they had left was horrible. They all wasted away to nothing right in front of my eyes, then died.

It scares the hell out of me, so I started researching how to prevent it in the first place, or alternative treatment if I ever get it.

I believe they could have cured cancer a long time ago but there is too much money to be made in conventional treatment.

Chemo? Ever wonder how or why the idea of injecting chemicals into the body to kill a tumor while destroying a body's immunity would be a good idea? Most of it came from the holocaust, from human experimentation. They also began to autopsy victims of chemical warfare on troops and civilians in other countries. They autopsied victims from the concentration camps. They discovered that the tumors were reacting differently. They discovered that live prisoners with an existing tumor undergoing treatment may have a tumor shrink as much as 80% after chemotherapy.

OH! A cancer breakthrough! Yeah right.

Sooo, "the experts" came up with the bright idea of chemotherapy. Let's inject this poison into the body over a period of time to shrink a tumor. We'll tell the patient it is to kill the tumor (and sometimes it does) but we won't worry so much about it killing everything else too. We'll tell them it is they're only chance to survive. I mean, the patient is going to die anyway, right? There is less than a 5% percent survivability rate from chemotherapy. . FIVE PERCENT!! Dont believe it? Look it up. Usually folks blindly believe whatever the "experts" tell them without asking any questions. And then they die 95% of the time.

Cancer is not targeted by chemo. They just throw a bunch of crap on the wall and hope some sticks. Then claim "progress" when a tumor shrinks. Meanwhile, let's throw out the quality of life, if any. And the payback? The treatment costs doctors about a quarter of what they charge. Follow the money trail...

Radiation? Sure, it works sometimes. But again, they claim "progress" while cancer usually starts breaking out in other areas. And if it is such a good thing, why do they stand behind a wall protecting themselves every time you get an exray? Oh, because they are exposed more than you would be if your having radiation treatments over several weeks or months? How does that work? Meanwhile your hair falls out and your quality of life suffers again. Then for aggressive cancer, they pair the two together. Really...?!!

Google the Flexnor Report and read about it. It gets pretty deep, but in a nutshell it was the beginning of big Phama, the AMA, and how the medical practice has been changed to this day. It was funded by Andrew Carnegie. He owned a chemical company at the time that eventually it became known as Bayer. Google the origin of Bayer.

Alternatives? I dont know the answer, but theres many things a person can do to help prevent cancer in the first place. Eliminating sugar in the diet is a good start. It's in just about everything we eat, usually in the form of corn syrup. And studies show that cancer feeds on glucose in the system. The average adult consumes over 150 pounds of sugar a year. In a 12 ounce soft drink there are over 9 teaspoons of sugar (corn syrup) Think about that the next time you sip a Coke while eating a big piece of dessert.

There are many treatments that have shown to be very successful without killing the body during the process. We have come a long ways in the last ten years or so, and many in the medical profession has realized alternatives to chemo and radiation, and hopefully a complete cure will be found. I like to believe it will happen in my lifetime.

Hopefully they have found a cure in Israel, and there isn't a better place for that cure to originate! I think this picture is apropos for this thread. It was taken over Jerusalem on January 19th, 2019.

"On the wings of eagles"

Rant over....
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Ytmsn wrote: Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:50 am Sorry for the rant. Its soapbox time...

I have lost many friends and family members to cancer. Every single one of them went through the horror of chemo and radiation and as a result the time they had left was horrible. They all wasted away to nothing right in front of my eyes, then died.

It scares the hell out of me, so I started researching how to prevent it in the first place, or alternative treatment if I ever get it.

I believe they could have cured cancer a long time ago but there is too much money to be made in conventional treatment.

Chemo? Ever wonder how or why the idea of injecting chemicals into the body to kill a tumor while destroying a body's immunity would be a good idea? Most of it came from the holocaust, from human experimentation. They also began to autopsy victims of chemical warfare on troops and civilians in other countries. They autopsied victims from the concentration camps. They discovered that the tumors were reacting differently. They discovered that live prisoners with an existing tumor undergoing treatment may have a tumor shrink as much as 80% after chemotherapy.

OH! A cancer breakthrough! Yeah right.

Sooo, "the experts" came up with the bright idea of chemotherapy. Let's inject this poison into the body over a period of time to shrink a tumor. We'll tell the patient it is to kill the tumor (and sometimes it does) but we won't worry so much about it killing everything else too. We'll tell them it is they're only chance to survive. I mean, the patient is going to die anyway, right? There is less than a 5% percent survivability rate from chemotherapy. . FIVE PERCENT!! Dont believe it? Look it up. Usually folks blindly believe whatever the "experts" tell them without asking any questions. And then they die 95% of the time.

Cancer is not targeted by chemo. They just throw a bunch of crap on the wall and hope some sticks. Then claim "progress" when a tumor shrinks. Meanwhile, let's throw out the quality of life, if any. And the payback? The treatment costs doctors about a quarter of what they charge. Follow the money trail...

Radiation? Sure, it works sometimes. But again, they claim "progress" while cancer usually starts breaking out in other areas. And if it is such a good thing, why do they stand behind a wall protecting themselves every time you get an exray? Oh, because they are exposed more than you would be if your having radiation treatments over several weeks or months? How does that work? Meanwhile your hair falls out and your quality of life suffers again. Then for aggressive cancer, they pair the two together. Really...?!!

Google the Flexnor Report and read about it. It gets pretty deep, but in a nutshell it was the beginning of big Phama, the AMA, and how the medical practice has been changed to this day. It was funded by Andrew Carnegie. He owned a chemical company at the time that eventually it became known as Bayer. Google the origin of Bayer.

Alternatives? I dont know the answer, but theres many things a person can do to help prevent cancer in the first place. Eliminating sugar in the diet is a good start. It's in just about everything we eat, usually in the form of corn syrup. And studies show that cancer feeds on glucose in the system. The average adult consumes over 150 pounds of sugar a year. In a 12 ounce soft drink there are over 9 teaspoons of sugar (corn syrup) Think about that the next time you sip a Coke while eating a big piece of dessert.

There are many treatments that have shown to be very successful without killing the body during the process. We have come a long ways in the last ten years or so, and many in the medical profession has realized alternatives to chemo and radiation, and hopefully a complete cure will be found. I like to believe it will happen in my lifetime.

Hopefully they have found a cure in Israel, and there isn't a better place for that cure to originate! I think this picture is apropos for this thread. It was taken over Jerusalem on January 19th, 2019.

"On the wings of eagles"

Rant over....
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Amen brother.

Have you ever seen/ heard of Insulin Potentiation Therapy (IPT) treatment ? I know 3 people that are still with us today because of it.

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My daughter had a melanoma removed several years back... it came back. In the meantime, immunotherapy became more commonplace. The doctors did another surgery, but some of the tumor had grown around a nerve, so they didn't cut it all out. After 6 months on immunotherapy, the last petscan was tumor-free. I feel like we dodged a bullet by living now... 10 years ago, we probably would have been looking at a different outcome. We still have 6 months of treatment, and lifelong monitoring. Probability of recurrence is high, but buying time at this point is invaluable... no telling what we'll have in the way of treatments/cures in the coming years. And immunotherapy is not poison... the main danger is the stimulated immune system might attack some healthy tissue, but they monitor for that. The treatments don't make her sick. They don't even make her feel bad. It's good stuff, if it applies to whatever kind of cancer you might have.
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