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Big Block Power wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:59 pm Plus I hate to say it if the boat trailer is too deep and you come in way off or the current pushed you off center your boat tries to go over the fenders which actually stops The boat. Don't ask me how I know. Ok I watched that happen. Lol. So rant is pretty hard to get that far up the trailer and hit something on the other side of the bow stop. Even when my bow hit it hit under the bow stop roller and why it took the hit.
I recommend cheater/guide poles they would help you a ton also. They are not a bad thing. Even a life long boater like Tuscany uses them still. Actually they have good value!
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jhnmdahl wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:08 pm
NautiGirl wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:26 am Don't mean to open a can of worms b/c I know some people frown upon it but are you planning on power loading it or using the wench?
Can't help but wonder whether people frown on power loading or using a wench? ;)
I used to power on our old Chaparral 233. It was the best way for that set up.
I quickly found out that powering on a heavier boat on a 6 bunk trailer isn't as easy. We pull this one on with a rope until I can hook the eye with the wench.
Like BB said, just find the sweet spot to stop the trailer in the water and do it the same way every time.

As far as launching, I like trailers to have 8' of space between the tip of the bow to coupler. I dont have to get out of the truck to launch. It also allows me to back in deeper and still keep the truck out of the water.
I just back her into the water with someone holding the ropes. I hit the brakes to knock the boat off the trailer, drop the truck back into drive and park. By the time I get back to the dock, the boat is warmed up and ready to leave.
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Winch: A winch is a mechanical device that is used to pull in or let out or otherwise adjust the tension of a rope or wire rope.
Wench: 1a: a young woman; girl, b: a female servant, 2 : a lewd woman

Not that a boat launch staffed by wenches doesn't sound like a viable business opportunity...
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jhnmdahl wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:08 pm Winch: A winch is a mechanical device that is used to pull in or let out or otherwise adjust the tension of a rope or wire rope.
Wench: 1a: a young woman; girl, b: a female servant, 2 : a lewd woman

Not that a boat launch staffed by wenches doesn't sound like a viable business opportunity...
I understand the difference, I was continuing the joke made in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1290
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NautiGirl wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:06 pm
jhnmdahl wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:08 pm Winch: A winch is a mechanical device that is used to pull in or let out or otherwise adjust the tension of a rope or wire rope.
Wench: 1a: a young woman; girl, b: a female servant, 2 : a lewd woman

Not that a boat launch staffed by wenches doesn't sound like a viable business opportunity...
I understand the difference, I was continuing the joke made in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1290
Yep, pointing it out for others. I remember the other thread.

Reminds me of the time my mom was texting the family about assisted living nurses, but kept spell check correcting her typos to assisted living nudes. Changed the retirement goals of a sizable chunk of our family that day.
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jhnmdahl wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:52 pm
NautiGirl wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:06 pm
jhnmdahl wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:08 pm Winch: A winch is a mechanical device that is used to pull in or let out or otherwise adjust the tension of a rope or wire rope.
Wench: 1a: a young woman; girl, b: a female servant, 2 : a lewd woman

Not that a boat launch staffed by wenches doesn't sound like a viable business opportunity...
I understand the difference, I was continuing the joke made in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1290
Yep, pointing it out for others. I remember the other thread.

Reminds me of the time my mom was texting the family about assisted living nurses, but kept spell check correcting her typos to assisted living nudes. Changed the retirement goals of a sizable chunk of our family that day.
That would be funny. Lol
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That's a great setup. If I were in the market for a new trailer, Loadmaster would be at the top of my list. I've emailed them and their response time is fantastic. Very straight forward. I really like my Eagle, but since they don't make custom trailers anymore, it would make the choice easy.

Out of curiosity, do you know the tongue weight of your set up? Same question for you Tuscany. I think mine is a little heavy and was looking for comparisons. No big deal if you don't.
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sailor55330 wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:17 am That's a great setup. If I were in the market for a new trailer, Loadmaster would be at the top of my list. I've emailed them and their response time is fantastic. Very straight forward. I really like my Eagle, but since they don't make custom trailers anymore, it would make the choice easy.

Out of curiosity, do you know the tongue weight of your set up? Same question for you Tuscany. I think mine is a little heavy and was looking for comparisons. No big deal if you don't.
Oh yea that should be about 10% like you were thinking. More the better I say. That way the trailer doesn't get all out of control going fast.
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sailor55330 wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:17 am That's a great setup. If I were in the market for a new trailer, Loadmaster would be at the top of my list. I've emailed them and their response time is fantastic. Very straight forward. I really like my Eagle, but since they don't make custom trailers anymore, it would make the choice easy.

Out of curiosity, do you know the tongue weight of your set up? Same question for you Tuscany. I think mine is a little heavy and was looking for comparisons. No big deal if you don't.
I do not know my tongue weight. I did ask them to go a little heavier than average. I only pull with an F150 with air bags or an F350 with air bags. It will squat my 2019 F150 with max tow package 2-3 inches without any air in the bags. I like extra tongue weight because the trailers seem to pull nicer.
It’s crazy how fast they respond to emails! It’s really nice actually! I’ve sent inquiries to other manufacturers and by the time they respond I forgot that I even contacted them... I worked with Megan at Loadmaster. They are wonderful to work with! If you are in the market I highly recommend them!
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I don’t know the tongue weight, but there is plenty. It’ll drop my truck a couple inches.
Loadmaster had the specs for an R7 in their file, and had built trailers and set bunks to that spec before.
I made mention of axle placement and leaving the axles further back when I ordered. Also, my trailer was 2’ longer than the model they would normally use and I let them know that I prefer a healthy tongue weight.

Megan and Gary will usually answer the phone. I don’t remember once calling there that a message went to a recording.
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Snowman8 wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:39 pm
Tuscany wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:15 am
Snowman8 wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:22 am

I noticed that the ladder isn’t very user friendly... I have grip tape on order already and I like your handle on the top! My dealer helped me setup the bow stop. He told me to get it as high as possible because in a panic stop or accident boats have a tendency to climb up the V block. I will probably leave it at this height once I try loading it from the water to make sure it works here. I will take your recommendation about just cutting the set screw (bolts) off and just drilling right through and bolting it solid. Now that you mention it I see where it could just push back inside the tube. I also opted out of using the boat buckle brand tie downs because I think they are only rated for about 2000lbs. I have a 10,000lb strap on the front pulling down and slightly back so hopefully that helps stop forward movement. Thanks for the suggestions back while I was building this trailer last winter too! It is by far the nicest pulling trailer I have ever pulled, and I pull a lot of trailers!
Before you start cutting, and altering.. Trust me on this one and try setting it up the way I am suggesting. No matter how you set up the block, by itself, it’s not going to stop the boat from moving in an emergency braking situation.

Your dealer isn’t considering the bow geometry here. It’s not a 90 degree bow angle. It’s closer to 45 degrees and the degree difference between higher and lower are almost the same. The only option the boat can go in an accident, or emergency braking...in either block position..is UP...
The V block isn’t a stop-all. It’s a catch all. A solid v block and a 90 degree tie down back to the trailer work together making it a stop all, and both are useless without each other. Moving the block back and dropping it all the way down into the tube insures that there is NO possible way the telescope setting will ever fail.
If you brake hard enough to actually move that boat in my suggested configuration of tie down, you hit something in front of you, and the boats on its way to beIng on top of you truck anyway..

Also with the block slightly lower, it will start guiding the front into place sooner when loading.
I dropped the bow stop all the way down today. I also got those unsightly hard water spots off the chrome bow scuff plate before someone called me out on it. It was a nice day for driveway boating too!
After setting the block up that way, and getting eyes on it, do you agree that this is solid and more safe? The block also fits perfectly between the strakes.
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I emailed them today for a quote for a new trailer for out boat. Mostly out of boredom but also b/c we have some problems /w our heritage trailer. Super quick response like you guys said.

First thought, damn their trailers are heavy. They quoted a dual axle /w 3,500 axles and one /w 6.000 axles.

The 3,500 trailer has a GVWR of 7350 and a payload of 5,894 for a trailer weight of 1,456
The 6,000lb axle trailer was a GVWR of 10,668 payload of 9,062 for a trailer weight of 1,606

Prices were reasonable, customer service seems great. Next time our trailer looks at me wrong I may be making a trip to Ohio.
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They are heavier, but you guys own a Ford, so it won’t break the truck.. 😇
C channel. No tube.
I think I have 9 cross members. No twist/flex in their trailers. Full support to the back of the boat. 12,400 gross.
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Tuscany wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:28 pm They are heavier, but you guys own a Ford, so it won’t break the truck.. 😇
C channel. No tube.
I think I have 9 cross members. No twist/flex in their trailers. Full support to the back of the boat. 12,400 gross.
For sure, they are really well built which accounts for the extra weight. 6,000lb axles on a trailer built for a 24ft boat seems crazy, but hey I could keep the same trailer when we move up to an R6!
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The difference in axles isn’t that much for a nice upgrade. Might as well get the stuff that lasts!.
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